The Next Moderator
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Gutfield made your point on The Five yesterday. Juan Williams was bemoaning the lack of civility in the debate and Gutfield told him that when their show was most contentious, the ratings were their highest. People say they want a toned down debate, but they won't watch that.
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Ann Althouse talks about interruptions:
Sorta talking about the calls for civility that @Doctor-Phibes and @Jolly mentioned.
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/10/biden-continually-interrupts-ryan-in.html
October 1, 2020
"Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying."
I'm rereading my live-blogging of the October 11, 2012 debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. It's making me view Trump's debate behavior in a different way. I hated the way Biden treated the very polite, earnest Midwesterner Ryan. Excerpts (with timestamps omitted):
Biden is being rude, laughing and mouthing words.... Biden mutters an interruption. When Biden is given a turn, he calls what Ryan said "malarky."... Ryan is speaking earnestly... and Biden is chuckling toothily, his body shaking like Santa Claus.... When Ryan speaks, Biden is laughing clownishly again. It looks just awful... Biden is acting as though he cannot physically tolerate Ryan having a turn to speak!... Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying.... While Ryan is talking... Biden sighs long and loud... Biden interrupts. Ryan says: "Mr. Vice President, I know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think everyone will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other." I love the politeness of "if we don't keep" — we — when Biden has been an interruption machine and Ryan has barely interrupted and only occasionally has talked over to keep from losing his turn. The moderator, Martha Raddatz has done nothing at all to control Biden.... The stress level is rising. Biden is so angry. Why is he yelling? Ryan needs nerves of steel not to lose his cool. I'm impressed that Ryan, when he gets his turn, is able to speak in an even, natural voice. It's hard to concentrate on the policy itself, because the emotional static is so strong... That debate was so annoying! Some of the CNN commentators are talking about how Biden did what he came to do, to fire up the Democrats. "This was not for the independents," says Van Jones. Okay, well, but independents were watching, and Biden was horribly rude. He created this disturbing atmosphere of anxiety.
Debating Trump, Biden got a big serving of what he dished out 8 years ago. Ryan did a fantastic job of maintaining his cool, staying substantive, and going high when Biden went low. And then he lost the election. I'm sure Biden would have been willing to do what he did in 2012 and be completely rude and irritating as hell once again, but he's 8 years older, and, more importantly, Donald Trump is not Paul Ryan. Trump is Trump, and Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Ann Althouse talks about interruptions:
Sorta talking about the calls for civility that @Doctor-Phibes and @Jolly mentioned.
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/10/biden-continually-interrupts-ryan-in.html
October 1, 2020
"Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying."
I'm rereading my live-blogging of the October 11, 2012 debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. It's making me view Trump's debate behavior in a different way. I hated the way Biden treated the very polite, earnest Midwesterner Ryan. Excerpts (with timestamps omitted):
Biden is being rude, laughing and mouthing words.... Biden mutters an interruption. When Biden is given a turn, he calls what Ryan said "malarky."... Ryan is speaking earnestly... and Biden is chuckling toothily, his body shaking like Santa Claus.... When Ryan speaks, Biden is laughing clownishly again. It looks just awful... Biden is acting as though he cannot physically tolerate Ryan having a turn to speak!... Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying.... While Ryan is talking... Biden sighs long and loud... Biden interrupts. Ryan says: "Mr. Vice President, I know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think everyone will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other." I love the politeness of "if we don't keep" — we — when Biden has been an interruption machine and Ryan has barely interrupted and only occasionally has talked over to keep from losing his turn. The moderator, Martha Raddatz has done nothing at all to control Biden.... The stress level is rising. Biden is so angry. Why is he yelling? Ryan needs nerves of steel not to lose his cool. I'm impressed that Ryan, when he gets his turn, is able to speak in an even, natural voice. It's hard to concentrate on the policy itself, because the emotional static is so strong... That debate was so annoying! Some of the CNN commentators are talking about how Biden did what he came to do, to fire up the Democrats. "This was not for the independents," says Van Jones. Okay, well, but independents were watching, and Biden was horribly rude. He created this disturbing atmosphere of anxiety.
Debating Trump, Biden got a big serving of what he dished out 8 years ago. Ryan did a fantastic job of maintaining his cool, staying substantive, and going high when Biden went low. And then he lost the election. I'm sure Biden would have been willing to do what he did in 2012 and be completely rude and irritating as hell once again, but he's 8 years older, and, more importantly, Donald Trump is not Paul Ryan. Trump is Trump, and Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
@George-K said in The Next Moderator:
Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.
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@George-K said in The Next Moderator:
Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:
@George-K said in The Next Moderator:
Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:
@George-K said in The Next Moderator:
Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.
IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.
I voted for Mittens, simply because I thought Obama was an inexperienced lightweight. Not because I was a huge Mittens fan. I have changed my opinion of Obama.
Now, he's an experienced lightweight.
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Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about TNCR needing a new moderator.
I thought maybe jgoo was back.
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@bachophile said in The Next Moderator:
Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about TNCR needing a new moderator.
I thought maybe jgoo was black.No, but I understand he was frequently exposed...
