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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    They'd be better off picking somebody less well known who moderates actual debates for a living or at least on a regular basis, rather than some talking head or journalist.

    Not that this is an actual debate.

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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:

    They'd be better off picking somebody less well known who moderates actual debates for a living or at least on a regular basis, rather than some talking head or journalist.

    And, as @Ivorythumper said on FB, the format should be the classic debate format:

    Specified time to make your point, respond to a question (10, 15 minutes)
    Specified time for opponent's rebuttal.
    Specified time to respond to rebuttal.

    Next question.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:

      They'd be better off picking somebody less well known who moderates actual debates for a living or at least on a regular basis, rather than some talking head or journalist.

      And, as @Ivorythumper said on FB, the format should be the classic debate format:

      Specified time to make your point, respond to a question (10, 15 minutes)
      Specified time for opponent's rebuttal.
      Specified time to respond to rebuttal.

      Next question.

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      @George-K said in The Next Moderator:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:

      They'd be better off picking somebody less well known who moderates actual debates for a living or at least on a regular basis, rather than some talking head or journalist.

      And, as @Ivorythumper said on FB, the format should be the classic debate format:

      Specified time to make your point, respond to a question (10, 15 minutes)
      Specified time for opponent's rebuttal.
      Specified time to respond to rebuttal.

      Next question.

      I'm not convinced that's what the baying mobs actually want. Obviously, we shouldn't be giving them what they want, but that's modern TV news coverage for you.

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #8

        Gutfield made your point on The Five yesterday. Juan Williams was bemoaning the lack of civility in the debate and Gutfield told him that when their show was most contentious, the ratings were their highest. People say they want a toned down debate, but they won't watch that.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #9

          Hopefully he'll be better than Candy Crowley Wallace was.

          The water that Wallace carried for Biden is amazing.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #10

            Ann Althouse talks about interruptions:

            Sorta talking about the calls for civility that @Doctor-Phibes and @Jolly mentioned.

            https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/10/biden-continually-interrupts-ryan-in.html

            October 1, 2020

            "Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying."

            I'm rereading my live-blogging of the October 11, 2012 debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. It's making me view Trump's debate behavior in a different way. I hated the way Biden treated the very polite, earnest Midwesterner Ryan. Excerpts (with timestamps omitted):

            Biden is being rude, laughing and mouthing words.... Biden mutters an interruption. When Biden is given a turn, he calls what Ryan said "malarky."... Ryan is speaking earnestly... and Biden is chuckling toothily, his body shaking like Santa Claus.... When Ryan speaks, Biden is laughing clownishly again. It looks just awful... Biden is acting as though he cannot physically tolerate Ryan having a turn to speak!... Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying.... While Ryan is talking... Biden sighs long and loud... Biden interrupts. Ryan says: "Mr. Vice President, I know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think everyone will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other." I love the politeness of "if we don't keep" — we — when Biden has been an interruption machine and Ryan has barely interrupted and only occasionally has talked over to keep from losing his turn. The moderator, Martha Raddatz has done nothing at all to control Biden.... The stress level is rising. Biden is so angry. Why is he yelling? Ryan needs nerves of steel not to lose his cool. I'm impressed that Ryan, when he gets his turn, is able to speak in an even, natural voice. It's hard to concentrate on the policy itself, because the emotional static is so strong... That debate was so annoying! Some of the CNN commentators are talking about how Biden did what he came to do, to fire up the Democrats. "This was not for the independents," says Van Jones. Okay, well, but independents were watching, and Biden was horribly rude. He created this disturbing atmosphere of anxiety.

            Debating Trump, Biden got a big serving of what he dished out 8 years ago. Ryan did a fantastic job of maintaining his cool, staying substantive, and going high when Biden went low. And then he lost the election. I'm sure Biden would have been willing to do what he did in 2012 and be completely rude and irritating as hell once again, but he's 8 years older, and, more importantly, Donald Trump is not Paul Ryan. Trump is Trump, and Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Chrissy WallAss?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                Ann Althouse talks about interruptions:

                Sorta talking about the calls for civility that @Doctor-Phibes and @Jolly mentioned.

                https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/10/biden-continually-interrupts-ryan-in.html

                October 1, 2020

                "Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying."

                I'm rereading my live-blogging of the October 11, 2012 debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. It's making me view Trump's debate behavior in a different way. I hated the way Biden treated the very polite, earnest Midwesterner Ryan. Excerpts (with timestamps omitted):

                Biden is being rude, laughing and mouthing words.... Biden mutters an interruption. When Biden is given a turn, he calls what Ryan said "malarky."... Ryan is speaking earnestly... and Biden is chuckling toothily, his body shaking like Santa Claus.... When Ryan speaks, Biden is laughing clownishly again. It looks just awful... Biden is acting as though he cannot physically tolerate Ryan having a turn to speak!... Biden continually interrupts Ryan in a way I find incredibly annoying.... While Ryan is talking... Biden sighs long and loud... Biden interrupts. Ryan says: "Mr. Vice President, I know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think everyone will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other." I love the politeness of "if we don't keep" — we — when Biden has been an interruption machine and Ryan has barely interrupted and only occasionally has talked over to keep from losing his turn. The moderator, Martha Raddatz has done nothing at all to control Biden.... The stress level is rising. Biden is so angry. Why is he yelling? Ryan needs nerves of steel not to lose his cool. I'm impressed that Ryan, when he gets his turn, is able to speak in an even, natural voice. It's hard to concentrate on the policy itself, because the emotional static is so strong... That debate was so annoying! Some of the CNN commentators are talking about how Biden did what he came to do, to fire up the Democrats. "This was not for the independents," says Van Jones. Okay, well, but independents were watching, and Biden was horribly rude. He created this disturbing atmosphere of anxiety.

                Debating Trump, Biden got a big serving of what he dished out 8 years ago. Ryan did a fantastic job of maintaining his cool, staying substantive, and going high when Biden went low. And then he lost the election. I'm sure Biden would have been willing to do what he did in 2012 and be completely rude and irritating as hell once again, but he's 8 years older, and, more importantly, Donald Trump is not Paul Ryan. Trump is Trump, and Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #12

                @George-K said in The Next Moderator:

                Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

                IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @George-K said in The Next Moderator:

                  Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

                  IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:

                  @George-K said in The Next Moderator:

                  Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

                  IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Next Moderator:

                  @George-K said in The Next Moderator:

                  Trump saw the ultra-polished and polite Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan go down to defeat.

                  IOW, we get the leaders we deserve.

                  I voted for Mittens, simply because I thought Obama was an inexperienced lightweight. Not because I was a huge Mittens fan. I have changed my opinion of Obama.

                  Now, he's an experienced lightweight.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Funny I thought David Brooks was moderating the next debate because of the tweet George posted.

                    I only now discovered it’s so e other guy, who I’ve never heard of.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about TNCR needing a new moderator.

                      I thought maybe jgoo was back.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #16

                        @bachophile said in The Next Moderator:

                        Damn. I thought this was going to be a thread about TNCR needing a new moderator.
                        I thought maybe jgoo was black.

                        No, but I understand he was frequently exposed...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Horace
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                          Hm? What's this then?

                          Education is extremely important.

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