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Gas price check

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    AndyD
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    There are people in rural houses who aren't connected to the mains so have to run generators for light and heat. Filling that fuel tank is going to be pricey or what!

    We run two cars but drive only six thousand miles a year so the impact can be absorbed. However there was a farm contractor on tv at the weekend saying that the farm machines he drives are now costing him an extra £500 each day in fuel.

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      MUST…. NOT…… MAKE….. RACIST…. ITALIAN ……JOKE……

      The Brad

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        AndyD
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        It is barely credible that the USA is energy independent, producing more oil and gas than used.
        How can you possibly justify charging your own citizens a price linked to the Straits of Hormuz? The oil still comes from Texas for goodness sake. Sell it abroad at an export price by all means.
        Somebody's getting shat on.

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          This is the question many people ask, and the answer is quite simple when you realize what our refineries in America are built for. The oil that we harvest from our ground is the suite light crude, and not the heavy crude that we import from all over, all of our refineries are designed to refine the heavy crude not the light and for this reason alone is why we are stuck with the prices we are.

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          • N NobodySock

            This is the question many people ask, and the answer is quite simple when you realize what our refineries in America are built for. The oil that we harvest from our ground is the suite light crude, and not the heavy crude that we import from all over, all of our refineries are designed to refine the heavy crude not the light and for this reason alone is why we are stuck with the prices we are.

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            NobodySock said:

            This is the question many people ask, and the answer is quite simple when you realize what our refineries in America are built for. The oil that we harvest from our ground is the suite light crude, and not the heavy crude that we import from all over, all of our refineries are designed to refine the heavy crude not the light and for this reason alone is why we are stuck with the prices we are.

            I am sure Alberta crude can elaborate on this fact

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              I was only joking

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                MUST…. NOT…… MAKE….. RACIST…. ITALIAN ……JOKE……

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                @LuFins-Dad said:

                MUST…. NOT…… MAKE….. RACIST…. ITALIAN ……JOKE……

                The only sure way to rid oneself of a temptation is to yield to it.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  NobodySock said:

                  This is the question many people ask, and the answer is quite simple when you realize what our refineries in America are built for. The oil that we harvest from our ground is the suite light crude, and not the heavy crude that we import from all over, all of our refineries are designed to refine the heavy crude not the light and for this reason alone is why we are stuck with the prices we are.

                  I am sure Alberta crude can elaborate on this fact

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                  @mik

                  I am sure Alberta crude can elaborate on this fact

                  For the most part he’s right about the refineries. As for the imported heavy crudes, they are sold at a discount into the US and then blended with domestically produced light crude to produce gasoline for the US market or re-exported as upgraded medium crude. In the case of synthetic crude produced here we upgrade it so it can be transported by pipeline and the oil companies resell it at a discount to either their parent company in the US - for example, Imperial Oil Canada selling it to its US parent company, Exxon-Mobil - or, like Canadian owned Suncor or Cenovus, to their US subsidiary at a discount. In the end the US refiners are the ones making the big dollars as their feedstock is always discounted.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Interesting. So the cars you make can't run on the oil you harvest.
                    Could cars be built to run on refined oil you harvest? I mean, some cars run on waste chip fat. Or perhaps I should ask, could refineries be built for your car production?
                    Will your light crude oil run generators, or oil heating systems? Or does it have to be mixed with heavy crude first.

                    Thank goodness we invented the battery/electric car around 1940 or the international petro-chemical industry might still be taking advantage🤪

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                      Interesting. So the cars you make can't run on the oil you harvest.
                      Could cars be built to run on refined oil you harvest? I mean, some cars run on waste chip fat. Or perhaps I should ask, could refineries be built for your car production?
                      Will your light crude oil run generators, or oil heating systems? Or does it have to be mixed with heavy crude first.

                      Thank goodness we invented the battery/electric car around 1940 or the international petro-chemical industry might still be taking advantage🤪

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                      @AndyD

                      Will your light crude oil run generators, or oil heating systems? Or does it have to be mixed with heavy crude first.

                      No it has to be refined first - although the light crude produced in some Western Siberian fields could run a diesel engine once the parafins are removed.

                      Light crudes produced in North America are used primarily for aviation fuel, motor oils and petrochemical production.

                      Elbows up!

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