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Government bureaucracy at its finest

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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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    So the British have passed a law that any overseas visitor requires an ETA to travel to the UK. We got one last year, no problem it cost about $13.

    Now, they've decided to enforce another law that British nationals, including dual nationals, are not permitted to have an ETA.

    So, because I was born in the UK, I am not allowed to travel to the UK unless I have a UK passport (which I don't). My Canadian and American children can go no problem.

    Wankers.

    When asked by my English friends why I left, I used to say "It's not you, it's me". But it's not. It's fucking you.

    I was only joking

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      That's just brilliant.

      Yes, that was sarcasm.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        Can you get a UK passport without being in the UK?

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Can you get a UK passport without being in the UK?

          Doctor PhibesD Online
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          @Axtremus said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

          Can you get a UK passport without being in the UK?

          Yes, but we have to get fucking 4 of them, so that's like $500, and we can't travel until they arrive.

          Apparently both my kids are British citizens too, so they need to have them as well. We never even requested that for them. We just found out today.

          I've been told the same rules apply to Canada and the US, but I can't be bothered checking.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Axtremus said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

            Can you get a UK passport without being in the UK?

            Yes, but we have to get fucking 4 of them, so that's like $500, and we can't travel until they arrive.

            Apparently both my kids are British citizens too, so they need to have them as well. We never even requested that for them. We just found out today.

            I've been told the same rules apply to Canada and the US, but I can't be bothered checking.

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            @Doctor-Phibes

            It’s been all over the news here for the last ten days. A lot of dual Canadian/British citizens affected and right vexed over it.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @Doctor-Phibes

              It’s been all over the news here for the last ten days. A lot of dual Canadian/British citizens affected and right vexed over it.

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              @Renauda said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

              @Doctor-Phibes

              It’s been all over the news here for the last ten days. A lot of dual Canadian/British citizens affected and right vexed over it.

              I'd heard about it, but incorrectly assumed that with an ETA we'd be able to make short-term visits. I can understand the rationale if I wanted to live there permanently, but it makes absolutely no sense if we just want to go for a week or two.

              I was only joking

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                It should be nice and quick to get a UK passport. It’s not like thousands are in your position making summer plans.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Renauda said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  It’s been all over the news here for the last ten days. A lot of dual Canadian/British citizens affected and right vexed over it.

                  I'd heard about it, but incorrectly assumed that with an ETA we'd be able to make short-term visits. I can understand the rationale if I wanted to live there permanently, but it makes absolutely no sense if we just want to go for a week or two.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

                  @Renauda said in Government bureaucracy at its finest:

                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  It’s been all over the news here for the last ten days. A lot of dual Canadian/British citizens affected and right vexed over it.

                  I'd heard about it, but incorrectly assumed that with an ETA we'd be able to make short-term visits. I can understand the rationale if I wanted to live there permanently, but it makes absolutely no sense if we just want to go for a week or two.

                  There are quite a few countries that have this requirement. I think, although I’m not certain, that the US requires it of its dual citizenship holders. I recall a former colleague who was born in New Jersey to a Finnish father and Canadian mother, having to maintain a US passport, so that she could travel without issue to into the US. Her family returned to their home in Finland when she was still an infant so she had no tie to the US other than being born there. She decided enough was enough a dozen or so years ago owing to a treaty between the US and Canada during the Harper years, that enables the IRS to requisition dual citizen holders banking and financial records from Canadian charter banks. She has since legally renounced her US citizenship at great effort; five years or more of sourcing proof of Finnish and Canadian residencies including all school and employment records in Finland and Canada to prove she was at no time an adult US resident or in the US in excess of 180 days in a given year. Legal fees and administrative costs totalled around $12k.

                  Elbows up!

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