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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Renauda ???

    (I am assuming you are not talking about Papua New Guinea. 555. Though of course, maybe you think he should be exile there. I know that the capital Port Moresby is one of the roughest places to live. )

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    Renauda
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    @taiwan_girl

    PNG is short for declaring a diplomat persona non grata, void his diplomatic status and send him back home.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_non_grata

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      I hope France PNGs him.

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      @Renauda France will not do that. Neither will Belgium as the consequences might be too obnoxious.
      But this is definitely a US strategy: causing havoc by pertinently lying about and interfering with local politics in Europe.
      Trumpty-Dumpty and Shite (US ambassador in Belgium) are exponents of sheer stupidity and arrogance.

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        I offer my sincere apologies on behalf of my countrymen who voted for this.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • MikM Away
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          No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • MikM Mik

            No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

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            Wim
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            @Mik Well, we didn't vote for this shit show, but we are facing the consequences.

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            • MikM Mik

              No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

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              @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

              No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

              The mere fact that you don’t think there’s a need is proof of the need for someone else to do it.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • MikM Away
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                No, no it's not. I criticize him as much as anyone but you. I just don't do it with such a pathological hatred.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  You’re not making sense.

                  Apologizing doesn’t imply hatred. Nor does it at all imply anything about the alternative.

                  When you’re at the beach and your toddler steps all over someone else’s blanket with his sandy feet you apologize to them. It doesn’t mean you hate your kid and it doesn’t mean you wish you had had some alternative kid.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    My guess is at some level you really are sorry he shits on our allies and threatens Canada and geeenland.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      I guess Mik now owes jon 5 cents. Glad to see mind reading is ok again, maybe I'll put up my shingle.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        You’re not making sense.

                        Apologizing doesn’t imply hatred. Nor does it at all imply anything about the alternative.

                        When you’re at the beach and your toddler steps all over someone else’s blanket with his sandy feet you apologize to them. It doesn’t mean you hate your kid and it doesn’t mean you wish you had had some alternative kid.

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                        @jon-nyc said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                        You’re not making sense.

                        Apologizing doesn’t imply hatred. Nor does it at all imply anything about the alternative.

                        Your years of derogatory posts toward Trump and anyone foolish enough in your eyes to vote for him are ample evidence of pathological hatred.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          I guess Mik now owes jon 5 cents. Glad to see mind reading is ok again, maybe I'll put up my shingle.

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                          said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                          I guess Mik now owes jon 5 cents. Glad to see mind reading is ok again, maybe I'll put up my shingle.

                          Here's a start: an apology on behalf of someone who doesn't want to apologize, is not a legitimate apology. It's really only a sanctimonious posturing, meant to imply a superior moral positioning.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            I am genuinely sorry he was elected. You can’t possibly believe otherwise.

                            So I’ll rephrase it.

                            I offer my sincere apologies for the fact that so many of my countrymen voted for this.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • W Wim

                              @Renauda France will not do that. Neither will Belgium as the consequences might be too obnoxious.
                              But this is definitely a US strategy: causing havoc by pertinently lying about and interfering with local politics in Europe.
                              Trumpty-Dumpty and Shite (US ambassador in Belgium) are exponents of sheer stupidity and arrogance.

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                              @Wim said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                              @Renauda France will not do that. Neither will Belgium as the consequences might be too obnoxious.
                              But this is definitely a US strategy: causing havoc by pertinently lying about and interfering with local politics in Europe.
                              Trumpty-Dumpty and Shite (US ambassador in Belgium) are exponents of sheer stupidity and arrogance.

                              I am aware of that, and agree with your breakdown on it.

                              I also feel similarly that Ottawa should PNG the current US ambassador to Canada, Peter Hoestra. In the past year his comments on Canadian domestic affairs and issues have periodically ventured way offside of acceptability for the most senior accredited diplomat representing a foreign country here.

                              Elbows up!

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                                @jon-nyc Now that we're therapizing, do you suppose the wallpaper of vomitous hatred you ply this board with, will help to keep people from voting in the way you're "sorry" for, in future elections? I know the word "sorry" can be multi-purpose, and one can be "sorry" for things they had nothing to do with, but the most effective apologies stem from regret for one's own behavior.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  No I think you’re a lost cause.

                                  Sorry.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

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                                    @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                    No need. For all the bluster, missteps and chaos it's still better than the alternative.

                                    Not so sure. I doubt “the alternative” (this one time I am not referring to Nikki Haley either) would have awarded an ambassadorship to a convicted felon, albeit pardoned by Trump himself, and family relative through marriage.

                                    At the very least, bad form and raises more questions than should otherwise be warranted.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Well, that is one point I can agree on, but I still believe that overall he's a much more effective president than Harris would have been. For all the plentiful distastefulness, he's tackling more issues head on than any president in memory. He has quite an ability to reframe and refocus national discussions.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        Renauda
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                                        That’s simply reframing the excuse I heard repeatedly during and immediately after his first term in office when it was pointed out that Trump was not a conservative. The retort was nearly always the same, ”yes, but he governs or governed as a conservative”.

                                        It’s an excuse to provide Trump cover for his ineptitude in the role he is degrading every day he sits in office.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          I think he's much more effective in this second term than the first. Like all presidents, he's done some things well and some badly.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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