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Not found in the Bible.

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  • HoraceH Horace

    Not all Christians believe in the pope’s infallibility. Even those who do can have hand wavy rhetorical disagreements over word usage and emphasis. I doubt the pope would claim that borders are anti biblical. He might have some explaining to do about the Vatican.

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    Renauda
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    @Horace said in Not found in the Bible.:

    Not all Christians believe in the pope’s infallibility.

    Regardless, the pope’s comments were not being made ex cathedra. Your point is moot.

    Even those who do can have hand wavy rhetorical disagreements over word usage and emphasis.

    True enough although I highly doubt the discourse on such are hand wavy. You should know that.

    I doubt the pope would claim that borders are anti biblical. He might have some explaining to do about the Vatican.

    The pope didn’t so why suggest he might have, or better, why did Johnson I feel the need to “mansplain” biblical passages in light of the Gregory XIV’s remarks which were not made ex Cathedra but presumably as head of the Vatican State?

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      @Horace said in Not found in the Bible.:

      Not all Christians believe in the pope’s infallibility.

      Regardless, the pope’s comments were not being made ex cathedra. Your point is moot.

      Even those who do can have hand wavy rhetorical disagreements over word usage and emphasis.

      True enough although I highly doubt the discourse on such are hand wavy. You should know that.

      I doubt the pope would claim that borders are anti biblical. He might have some explaining to do about the Vatican.

      The pope didn’t so why suggest he might have, or better, why did Johnson I feel the need to “mansplain” biblical passages in light of the Gregory XIV’s remarks which were not made ex Cathedra but presumably as head of the Vatican State?

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      @Renauda Johnson was speaking to the audience, not the pope. The pope’s arguments were sufficiently vague that they could be framed as a defense of essentially open borders, or a notion that once someone is in your country, regardless of how they came to be there, it is Christian to allow them to stay. It is fine to present alternative framings of the bible to address ill defined political battles over immigration.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Johnson is southern Baptist, which means he explicitly rejects the infallibility of the pope. Nothing much to see here about Johnson presuming to explain why the pope is wrong about Christianity. That’s baked into his denomination.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Yes, I am acquainted with the Southern Baptist heresy. No need therefore to explain that in their minds they, and only they, are the final and absolute authority on all matters Scriptural.

          I even recollect an outspoken Baptist of the southern persuasion, once telling a theologically learned and erudite RC he has a reading comprehension problem.

          Elbows up!

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            Papal infallibility 😄

            Hey, it's what, 1700 years since the last significant meeting when some blokes met to decide which of their theocratic writings ought to be included in their book of religious texts.
            Is it time for a New Improved Version? Get rid of all the politics, misogyny etc.
            😉

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              Papal infallibility 😄

              Hey, it's what, 1700 years since the last significant meeting when some blokes met to decide which of their theocratic writings ought to be included in their book of religious texts.
              Is it time for a New Improved Version? Get rid of all the politics, misogyny etc.
              😉

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              @AndyD

              I believe Thomas Jefferson already purged the book - at least the New Testament version - of most, if not all, the superstitious magic and mythology.

              Edit: here it is although I am not certain whether the archaic social and political lessons, assertions and aspersions were expunged:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                Yes, I am acquainted with the Southern Baptist heresy. No need therefore to explain that in their minds they, and only they, are the final and absolute authority on all matters Scriptural.

                I even recollect an outspoken Baptist of the southern persuasion, once telling a theologically learned and erudite RC he has a reading comprehension problem.

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                @Renauda said in Not found in the Bible.:

                Yes, I am acquainted with the Southern Baptist heresy. No need therefore to explain that in their minds they, and only they, are the final and absolute authority on all matters Scriptural.

                I even recollect an outspoken Baptist of the southern persuasion, once telling a theologically learned and erudite RC he has a reading comprehension problem.

                I recall that. I'd say it is more of an interpretation issue, which largely explains the various Christian denominations. Thank God they don't lob bombs at each other.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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