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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    Maybe this should be in the "mildly interesting" forum thread. LOL

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/01/the-origin-story-of-syphilis-goes-back-far-longer-than-we-thought/

    When King Charles VIII of France occupied Naples in 1495, his army of nearly 20,000 mercenaries became the ground zero of the “Great Pox,” the first massive venereal syphilis pandemic in Europe, which went on to cause up to 5 million deaths. For a long time, the siege of Naples was considered the first time syphilis entered European accounts and culture. “But the evolutionary history of Treponema pallidum, the lineage of bacteria including the one that causes syphilis, goes way deeper in time,” says Elizabeth Nelson, an anthropologist at Southern Methodist University.

    Nelson and her colleagues found a 5,500-year-old Treponema pallidum genome in an individual excavated from a rock shelter in Colombia—a discovery that shows pathogens causing treponemal diseases like syphilis, bejel, or yaws are several millennia older than we thought. And this means we might have been thinking about the origins of syphilis in an entirely wrong way.

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      Colombian chicks?

      Knock me over with a feather.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        Still involved sheep, though.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Still involved sheep, though.

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          @LuFins-Dad said in the-origin-story-of-syphilis-goes-back-far-longer-than-we-thought:

          Still involved sheep, though.

          Actually, llamas. I read somewhere years ago, that syphilis is endemic among llama populations in Peru. As well, we know the Spaniards and Portuguese introduced it to Europe after contact with the Natives in the Caribbean and Mezoamerica. Seems like a fair trade- we bring smallpox in exchange for syphilis.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @LuFins-Dad said in the-origin-story-of-syphilis-goes-back-far-longer-than-we-thought:

            Still involved sheep, though.

            Actually, llamas. I read somewhere years ago, that syphilis is endemic among llama populations in Peru. As well, we know the Spaniards and Portuguese introduced it to Europe after contact with the Natives in the Caribbean and Mezoamerica. Seems like a fair trade- we bring smallpox in exchange for syphilis.

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            @Renauda said in the-origin-story-of-syphilis-goes-back-far-longer-than-we-thought:

            @LuFins-Dad said in the-origin-story-of-syphilis-goes-back-far-longer-than-we-thought:

            Still involved sheep, though.

            Actually, llamas. I read somewhere years ago, that syphilis is endemic among llama populations in Peru.

            Now you tell me, a month after I get back.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              I just thought you would have already found that out on your own.

              Elbows up!

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                Jon wouldn’t like llamas. They spit.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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