Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.

[Loki]

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Not even close to what they did to Bork, Thomas and Kavanaugh. Trump will likel ynominate a woman - then let's see the accusers come forth.

Very true, but to the main point in this thread, they did it because they could.

[Mik]

Yep. Wasn't any principle involved but power. Especially in Kavanaugh's case.

[xenon]

I guess the distinction I was making was that the norm has been feigned principle (e.g., "believe women")

[George K]

@xenon said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

I guess the distinction I was making was that the norm has been feigned principle (e.g., "believe women")

That started with Anita Hill.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

Yup.

But it's only ½ as racist as picking a BLACK woman for VEEP.

[Mik]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

What in heck is “gender racist”?

[Horace]

That goes to my theory that the word "racist" has become synonymous with "evil", a very intentional trick of language instituted by the left.

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace when I look up the definition of fascist, it is not a good thing.

Evil may not be the right term, but by definition, racist is not good.

Not sure when racist was ever thought to be a good thing.

[Horace]

Evil is a more general and less ambiguous term. And all of leftist critical race theory, which has filtered down to pop culture as progressivism, is based on a socially acceptable virtuous sort of racism.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Horace when I look up the definition of fascist, it is not a good thing.

Evil may not be the right term, but by definition, racist is not good.

Not sure when racist was ever thought to be a good thing.

I dunno. Many SE Asia countries are pretty racist and it doesn't bother them a bit.

[Horace]

It is particular to American culture, this obsession with skin color and the thoughts people think about it. It all traces back to power and the ability to manipulate the masses into thinking and acting in the way they have been convinced is virtuously opposed to the evil that lurks within them. Some of us are apparently more manipulable than others, not least, I suspect, because some of us have more such thought patterns within ourselves to be ashamed of than others.

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

It is particular to American culture, this obsession with skin color and the thoughts people think about it.

Actually not at all. Go to any Asian country and one of the popular cosmetics is skin whitening cream.

Having darker skin in most Asian countries is a (Incorrect) sign you are a laborer And less educated.

Unfortunately not only the US has these thoughts.

[Horace]

Well I didn’t say no other country thought about it. America has a particular obsession. To the extent that the left believes skin color underpins all of politics. To the extent that race theory is religious, which it is, that makes the left’s politics religious. So I would question anybody who believes with a shrug that America’s obsession with race is not particular.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Well I didn’t say no other country thought about it. America has a particular obsession. To the extent that the left believes skin color underpins all of politics. To the extent that race theory is religious, which it is, that makes the left’s politics religious. So I would question anybody who believes with a shrug that America’s obsession with race is not particular.

There are a number of obsessions that seem to be peculiarly American. Guns and abortion spring to mind as well as race. I never really thought much about either before I lived here.

[Moonbat]

@George-K seems like a mistake. Personally I think the erosion of political norms is a much greater danger for either side than anything else. The same is true over here though you guys seem to be trail blazers in eradicating any semblance of shared values. All this will just lead to further polarisation and acceptance that anything you can get away with is ok.

[Horace]

The importance of extralegal political norms are what the founders attempted to minimize with every word of the constitution. Because as a foundation, extra-legal norms are useless.

[George K]

The erosion of comity and political norms began with the Bork hearings. It continued with Reid's abolition of the filibuster for everything other than SCOTUS nominations. The filibustering of Estrada because he was Hispanic was an outrage.

Once the norm of filibuster was removed by Harry Reid, presumably expecting to retain a majority in the Senate was a bone-headed and amateurish move. I would have expected him to have known better.

As a blogger comments, today's Democrats' argument is simply, "Mom, he hit me back!"

[Mik]

Call the tune, pay the piper.

[Copper]

@George-K said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

The erosion of comity and political norms began

Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton

Caesar Brutus

Cain Abel