Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.

[xenon]

This feels like an interesting transition point into "fuck you... because I can" politics.

As in - no pretense that there are any higher principles at play and naked disdain of the other side.

To be clear, I'm not saying that the Republicans have contributed to this state of affairs more than the Democrats - it's just a really clear, impactful demonstration of the new normal.

[Mik]

What's new? This crap has been going on since the Bush administration.

[Jolly]

Bork.

[Mik]

That too. Then Clarence Thomas.

Should Biden be elected his past record on GOP SCOTUS nominations will turn it into even more of a scorched earth process than it is today.

[Horace]

I guess it’s common to mistake something for new at the moment you understand that it is how things work.

[xenon]

Yeah - I was young during the Clarence Thomas confirmation. But did the Democrats and Republicans essentially just switch positions wholesale on subsequent nominations?

The Garland -> RBG replacement flip is just hilarious.

Same words, different sides.

Also did the Dems and Republicans hate each other then as much as they do now?

[Jolly]

@xenon said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Yeah - I was young during the Clarence Thomas confirmation. But did the Democrats and Republicans essentially just switch positions wholesale on subsequent nominations?

The Garland -> RBG replacement flip is just hilarious.

Same words, different sides.

Also did the Dems and Republicans hate each other then as much as they do now?

Never seen the GOP lynch somebody.

[Mik]

Not even close to what they did to Bork, Thomas and Kavanaugh. Trump will likely nominate a woman - then let's see the accusers come forth.

[Loki]

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Not even close to what they did to Bork, Thomas and Kavanaugh. Trump will likel ynominate a woman - then let's see the accusers come forth.

Very true, but to the main point in this thread, they did it because they could.

[Mik]

Yep. Wasn't any principle involved but power. Especially in Kavanaugh's case.

[xenon]

I guess the distinction I was making was that the norm has been feigned principle (e.g., "believe women")

[George K]

@xenon said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

I guess the distinction I was making was that the norm has been feigned principle (e.g., "believe women")

That started with Anita Hill.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

Yup.

But it's only ½ as racist as picking a BLACK woman for VEEP.

[Mik]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Mik said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

Trump will likely nominate a woman

Isn't that kind of gender racist? Are there not any qualified men available?

What in heck is “gender racist”?

[Horace]

That goes to my theory that the word "racist" has become synonymous with "evil", a very intentional trick of language instituted by the left.

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace when I look up the definition of fascist, it is not a good thing.

Evil may not be the right term, but by definition, racist is not good.

Not sure when racist was ever thought to be a good thing.

[Horace]

Evil is a more general and less ambiguous term. And all of leftist critical race theory, which has filtered down to pop culture as progressivism, is based on a socially acceptable virtuous sort of racism.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Graham sez the Murder Turtle has the votes.:

@Horace when I look up the definition of fascist, it is not a good thing.

Evil may not be the right term, but by definition, racist is not good.

Not sure when racist was ever thought to be a good thing.

I dunno. Many SE Asia countries are pretty racist and it doesn't bother them a bit.

[Horace]

It is particular to American culture, this obsession with skin color and the thoughts people think about it. It all traces back to power and the ability to manipulate the masses into thinking and acting in the way they have been convinced is virtuously opposed to the evil that lurks within them. Some of us are apparently more manipulable than others, not least, I suspect, because some of us have more such thought patterns within ourselves to be ashamed of than others.