Tucker Speaks

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said:

So boring. Russia bad is almost as boring as orange man bad. It's probably a little bit more nuanced than that.

Sure, Russia is complicated. On the other hand, there's not much nuance that I can see to Vladimir Putin.

However, Tucker Carlson becoming outraged on our behalf by how cheap supermarket food is in Russia is beyond stoopid.

[Horace]

I'm pretty sure that's not an accurate framing of what Tucker was saying. I think he was saying that Russia ain't that bad.

[kluurs]

Having grown up in the post WWII glow, the 60s and 70s - the US was still the envy of the world - with the biggest and bests. We watched films of WWII that told us how our "industrial might" could be matched by no other nation. Our institutions were set the standards for the world.

That influence has lingered in our consciousness though less true - and in some cases, completely false.

Depending upon how one wishes to rate things, many nations have higher standards of living, better healthcare, higher citizen satisfaction, and even better image in the world.

Tucker's amazement that Russians aren't living a life like Ivan Denisovich isn't too far off from many American's perceptions - folks who visit China are amazed to see a country that seems a decade or more ahead of us in technology - a kind of culture shock when compared to our self-narrative.

[Renauda]

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

[Horace]

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

I won't tell you anything, nor will you tell me anything about my personal life.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said:

I'm pretty sure that's not an accurate framing of what Tucker was saying. I think he was saying that Russia ain't that bad.

He actually said he was 'radicalized' by the experience of finding you could buy a week's worth of groceries for $100. He didn't seem to realise that the reason they were so cheap is because that's all Russians could afford.

Incidentally, my Russian emigre friend despises Carlson almost as much as he does Putin. Take that for what it's worth.

[Axtremus]

[Renauda]

@Horace said:

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

I won't tell you anything, nor will you tell me anything about my personal life.

No need to and besides, that’s not what I asked - in fact, I didn’t even realise my intended saracasm was even a question to be answered in the first place.

I know full well you and Carlson have no real life experience of Russia. It’s pretty obvious too.

[Doctor Phibes]

I find watching this bloke wandering around in his preppy attire being amazed at the concept of paying a deposit for supermarket carts so funny. Presumably they don't have such things down in Boca Grande.

Radicalized, my arse.

[Tom-K]

@Doctor-Phibes said:

I find watching this bloke wandering around in his preppy attire being amazed at the concept of paying a deposit for supermarket carts so funny. Presumably they don't have such things down in Boca Grande.

Radicalized, my arse.

Your boy Rees Mogg can teach Tucker 500 years worth of lessons on being a snob.