Change at the beeb
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I can name two ex-princes that are lower on the human virtue and intelligence ladder than Trump is, and that's based on just what we actually know about all of them. Trump's an open book, flayed alive by an adversarial culture, while the royals are protected and revered by their inbred white trash country. Turns out, Jimmy Seville wasn't an anomaly, he was just one of them. It's really sad.
@Horace said in Change at the beeb:
revered by their inbred white trash country
I think the reverence has taken a bit of a pounding of late. And not in a good way. The establishment is still revoltingly obsequious, but regular folk not so much. At least, in my little liberal family bubble. People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
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@Horace said in Change at the beeb:
revered by their inbred white trash country
I think the reverence has taken a bit of a pounding of late. And not in a good way. The establishment is still revoltingly obsequious, but regular folk not so much. At least, in my little liberal family bubble. People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
I blame John of Gaunt’s bastard progeny that came to make up the House of Beaufort for all the personal shortcomings of today’s British royals. It all started with Margaret Beaufort marrying Edmund Tudor then giving birth to the future usurper, Henry Tudor.
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People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
I blame John of Gaunt’s bastard progeny that came to make up the House of Beaufort for all the personal shortcomings of today’s British royals. It all started with Margaret Beaufort marrying Edmund Tudor then giving birth to the future usurper, Henry Tudor.
@Renauda said in Change at the beeb:
People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
I blame John of Gaunt’s bastard progeny that came to make up the House of Beaufort for all the personal shortcomings of today’s British royals. It all started with Margaret Beaufort marrying Edmund Tudor then giving birth to the future usurper, Henry Tudor.
We should never have opened the border to Wales. Allowing sheep-shaggers to run the country, I ask you....
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@Renauda said in Change at the beeb:
People like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are obviously still going to toady up to the inbred Hanoverians.
I blame John of Gaunt’s bastard progeny that came to make up the House of Beaufort for all the personal shortcomings of today’s British royals. It all started with Margaret Beaufort marrying Edmund Tudor then giving birth to the future usurper, Henry Tudor.
We should never have opened the border to Wales. Allowing sheep-shaggers to run the country, I ask you....
Yes it opened the gates to the unthinkable.
You know those Romanovs were Russian in name only, in fact by 1914 all European royals looked like Hohenzollerns! George V, Nikolai II and Wilhelm II could have passed as triplets from the same brood. The lot all bad eggs if you ask me. Some of the others even had the cheek to change their family name from Battenberg to Mountbatten in an effort to hide their true identities. All goes back to the House of Lancaster and its bastard progeny, those damned Beauforts.
Bonaparte had them all figured out over a hundred years prior.
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The Panorama editors ought not have run the two phrases together as one, no doubt.
Trumps reaction, a threatened one billion lawsuit. He has the morals of an alley cat; convicted of sexual assault (and accused by some 30 other people of much worse), convicted of tax fraud, of falsifying business accounts.Yes the UK needs to further change our monarchy, House of Lords and honours systems. It is a centuries old institution that was imposed by force.
You are truly privileged in the USA to have a fair electoral system that includes the collective choice of a person worthy to lead.
We don't, so the UK recently had Brown, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, none of whom won a general election yet were PM's.In an obscure poetry book called Tide Lines (1988) acquired recently, the introduction has a quote by probably the most famous person & leader then living; the eloquent words go to the heart of things:
"I feel inspired to say this to you... surely the time has come for our society to realise that the future of humanity depends as never before, on our collective moral choice... humanity must make a moral about-face... Ladies and gentlemen, it is for you now to take up this noble challenge"
Forty years on, how are we doing with that collective moral choice?
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The Panorama editors ought not have run the two phrases together as one, no doubt.
Trumps reaction, a threatened one billion lawsuit. He has the morals of an alley cat; convicted of sexual assault (and accused by some 30 other people of much worse), convicted of tax fraud, of falsifying business accounts.Yes the UK needs to further change our monarchy, House of Lords and honours systems. It is a centuries old institution that was imposed by force.
You are truly privileged in the USA to have a fair electoral system that includes the collective choice of a person worthy to lead.
We don't, so the UK recently had Brown, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, none of whom won a general election yet were PM's.In an obscure poetry book called Tide Lines (1988) acquired recently, the introduction has a quote by probably the most famous person & leader then living; the eloquent words go to the heart of things:
"I feel inspired to say this to you... surely the time has come for our society to realise that the future of humanity depends as never before, on our collective moral choice... humanity must make a moral about-face... Ladies and gentlemen, it is for you now to take up this noble challenge"
Forty years on, how are we doing with that collective moral choice?
@AndyD said in Change at the beeb:
You are truly privileged in the USA to have a fair electoral system that includes the collective choice of a person worthy to lead.
Funny I often times think we’d be better off under a parliamentary system. It’s probably a ‘grass is greener’ thing.
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@AndyD said in Change at the beeb:
You are truly privileged in the USA to have a fair electoral system that includes the collective choice of a person worthy to lead.
Funny I often times think we’d be better off under a parliamentary system. It’s probably a ‘grass is greener’ thing.
@jon-nyc I know exactly what you mean. At least the PMs are chosen by those who have already been elected and empowered to make decisions rather than "Oh, he has such nice hair".
I feel similarly about our senators who used to be chosen by state legislatures. The advent of (anti)social media only reinforces my feeling of the inmates running the asylum.
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@jon-nyc I know exactly what you mean. At least the PMs are chosen by those who have already been elected and empowered to make decisions rather than "Oh, he has such nice hair".
I feel similarly about our senators who used to be chosen by state legislatures. The advent of (anti)social media only reinforces my feeling of the inmates running the asylum.
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Politicians are human, we saw it in the expenses scandal when fewer than 5 weren't screwing the system for anything from a packet of hobnobs to a Duck House for a lake.
So with bribery, blackmail and back stabbing we had Mr Bumblinghair don't really care, followed by Mrs Ego hasnoclue gotta go, and Mr Smugbold its all about my gold.You at least get vice-potus, but then imagine the crapshoot until the next election.
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I am content to live in a country that adheres to the Westminster system of parliamentary governance. Should there be some institutional reforms to make it more efficient and accountable? Absolutely, and I could name at least two or three that ought to be addressed sometime in the near to distant future. No need however to rush since the present tendency to populist appeal and extremes does not offer an opportune time for rational debate or decision making.
