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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    Maybe give it to Greta?

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #11

      Is there a prize for most obnoxious selfie seeker?

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        You can start one!

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          The Trump nominations weren’t related to the newest Israel/Palestinian Peace Deal. They were based on ending the India/Pakistan conflict, The Congo and Rwanda Settlement, The Cambodia/Thailand Ceasefire, the Armenia/Azerbaijan settlement, and the earlier temporary ceasefire in Gaza.

          So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #14

            You obviously haven’t been following Greta on instagram.

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              The Trump nominations weren’t related to the newest Israel/Palestinian Peace Deal. They were based on ending the India/Pakistan conflict, The Congo and Rwanda Settlement, The Cambodia/Thailand Ceasefire, the Armenia/Azerbaijan settlement, and the earlier temporary ceasefire in Gaza.

              So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

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              jon-nyc
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              #15

              @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

              So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

              Seems like you have to subtract points for claiming Ukraine started the war, no?

              Or saying that Russia ‘earned’ land in Ukraine?

              I mean you have to look at everything they did, don’t you?

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                The committee doesn't publish its fishbone analysis of root cause for nobel prizes.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                  So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

                  Seems like you have to subtract points for claiming Ukraine started the war, no?

                  Or saying that Russia ‘earned’ land in Ukraine?

                  I mean you have to look at everything they did, don’t you?

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                  @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                  So kindly let me know who has accomplished more this year, and that’s excluding the current peace plan in Gaza…

                  Seems like you have to subtract points for claiming Ukraine started the war, no?

                  Or saying that Russia ‘earned’ land in Ukraine?

                  I mean you have to look at everything they did, don’t you?

                  Sure thing. Do how much worse did that make the war? How many more lives did it cost for the tally?

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    It’s too soon to say and even in hindsight would be speculative.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      So 0, as far as you know. Got it. Thanks.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        #20

                        I can’t prove to you it won’t be 1,000,000 and I can’t prove to you it won’t be zero. Putin may well be one creative compliment away from getting back maga support.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table? ~~

                          So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table? ~~

                            So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                            ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table? ~~

                            So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

                            Tuning into these rhetorical frequencies is a long and unpleasant process.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              ~~So how well did the UN’s approach of calling Putin a War Criminal and a monster in countless proclamations work in getting Putin to the table? ~~

                              So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                              So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

                              I don’t even understand this sentence so pick your mic back up.

                              One imagines that violating international law by bombing commercial boats and threatening historic allies over their territory would be on the negative side of the ledger as well. Not even mentioning his effective declaration of war on various American cities.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                If nothing else I'm sure we can all agree that Trump is the moral victor in the fight for the Peace Prize.

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                  So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

                                  I don’t even understand this sentence so pick your mic back up.

                                  One imagines that violating international law by bombing commercial boats and threatening historic allies over their territory would be on the negative side of the ledger as well. Not even mentioning his effective declaration of war on various American cities.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                  So your answer is 0 holiday, but you reserve the right to still use it as a pointless argument because it might someday win you points. Got it.

                                  I don’t even understand this sentence so pick your mic back up.

                                  It might have some vague connection to this sort of progression. On one day, be the sort of person who writes a thoughtful critique of why appropriating dramatic words is rhetorically cheating, and bad for discourse in general:

                                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/349345

                                  Honestly it’s like calling a glance at a black woman’s hair ‘white supremacy’.

                                  You take a word with a well understood and emotionally charged meaning and apply it to something very different with the hopes of getting some of the stink of the word on the new thing.

                                  Of course it also cheapens the word if you’re successful.

                                  Then on the next day, maybe say that Trump is "effectively declaring war on American cities".

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    Well he’s declaring them to be in a state of war, whatever that means, on the theory that that allows him to send troops in to offer violence to his political enemies.

                                    Thats a lot more words but still falls on the opposite side of the Nobel laureate ledger.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Well he’s declaring them to be in a state of war, whatever that means, on the theory that that allows him to send troops in to offer violence to his political enemies.

                                      Thats a lot more words but still falls on the opposite side of the Nobel laureate ledger.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                      Well he’s declaring them to be in a state of war, whatever that means, on the theory that that allows him to send troops in to offer violence to his political enemies.

                                      Thats a lot more words but still falls on the opposite side of the Nobel laureate ledger.

                                      So in an economy of words, you sacrificed detail, in order to enhance communication. The dramatic word choice of "declare war on American cities" happens to be pretty damning to the politician you hate, but that was incidental. Your goal was simplified communication. Thank you for your explanation. I am now disabused of the notion that you often use bs rhetoric to support whatever point you're making that day, even though you're more than capable of arguing intelligently about why your bs rhetoric is bs.

                                      Occam might think that you just have a point of view, and you don't really care about the quality of rhetoric you will employ to convince people of it. But Occam's problem is that you haven't explained everything to him.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        I put the word ‘effectively’ in there lest someone thinks the Congress who’s afraid to be in session lest they pass a discharge petition on the Epstein files actually issued a declaration of war.

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          I put the word ‘effectively’ in there lest someone thinks the Congress who’s afraid to be in session lest they pass a discharge petition on the Epstein files actually issued a declaration of war.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is….:

                                          I put the word ‘effectively’ in there lest someone thinks the Congress who’s afraid to be in session lest they pass a discharge petition on the Epstein files actually issued a declaration of war.

                                          Sorry for straw manning you. It's difficult to keep up with the rhetorical honesty and economy of your words. One minor tweak, and the magic is lost.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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