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Thermobaric bombs for cartel fentanyl production labs?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Honestly, while it's dicey diplomatically, we drop bombs regularly on other nations. I suspect the only reason it is SO dicey with Mexico is that so much of the government is involved or profiting in some way.

    Fentanyl killed 112,000 Americans in 2023 alone. If that's not waging war on the US, I don't know what is.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-world-s-deadliest-non-nuclear-bomb-vs-a-cartel-drug-lab/ss-AA1Npv1x

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      That’s how we’d get Chinese bases in North America.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        Trying to see if I can draw parallel with the “Opium Wars” in 19th century China: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

        While the consumers/users consumed the opioids voluntarily, the blame has indeed been placed on the supply side (the producers, traffickers, distributors, retailers).

        Difference is, at the time China was weaker than the opium producing countries, whereas now we the USA is much stronger than the fentanyl producing countries.

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        • MikM Mik

          Honestly, while it's dicey diplomatically, we drop bombs regularly on other nations. I suspect the only reason it is SO dicey with Mexico is that so much of the government is involved or profiting in some way.

          Fentanyl killed 112,000 Americans in 2023 alone. If that's not waging war on the US, I don't know what is.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-world-s-deadliest-non-nuclear-bomb-vs-a-cartel-drug-lab/ss-AA1Npv1x

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          @Mik said in Thermobaric bombs for cartel fentanyl production labs?:

          Fentanyl killed 112,000 Americans in 2023 alone. If that's not waging war on the US, I don't know what is.

          That's absurd and dangerous. Those Americans take Fentanyl because they want to. They are even paying for it.

          You could just as well drop a bomb on McDonalds. Obesity kills even more people.

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            @Klaus Obviously not that black and white. Fentanyl is illegal, for one. And opiates hijack the brain to a much greater extent than Big Macs do. The brain, the same thing that makes the human want to do the drug, and want to pay for it. Whatever free will and personal agency your rhetorical argument relies on, is limited by the drug.

            Education is extremely important.

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              We've also found that the supposed panacea for taking the profit out of illegal drugs, legalization, doesn't work.

              At some point the purveyors need to be either eliminated or scared enough to limit their activities.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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