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Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Matt Yglesias:

    “ Trump is doing the part of socialism where you destroy the economy's long-term potential with central planning, but skipping the part where you take care of the poor and the sick.”

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        Trump’s taking of 10% of Intel has won him some applause.

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          Just an idea here - maybe we could get a return on that investment by taxing corporate earnings and capital gains? Nah, never mind. Silly idea.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

            Of course. If your party thinks of it, it is great.

            If the exact same idea is proposed by the other side, it is a terrible idea. LOL

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @jon-nyc said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

              Of course. If your party thinks of it, it is great.

              If the exact same idea is proposed by the other side, it is a terrible idea. LOL

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              @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

              @jon-nyc said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

              Of course. If your party thinks of it, it is great.

              If the exact same idea is proposed by the other side, it is a terrible idea. LOL

              Not at all. We think it’s horrible. We just think it’s better than the alternative that we had.

              The Brad

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                If your options are to watch your home being flooded or have your house and every item in it burn to the ground, with you and your family in it, you take the flood. It doesn’t make you happy for the flood…

                The Brad

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @jon-nyc said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

                  Of course. If your party thinks of it, it is great.

                  If the exact same idea is proposed by the other side, it is a terrible idea. LOL

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

                  @jon-nyc said in Trump to Mamdani: Hold my beer:

                  Of course. If your party thinks of it, it is great.

                  If the exact same idea is proposed by the other side, it is a terrible idea. LOL

                  Give Bernie credit. He liked state run capitalist experiments when Obama did them and he likes them when Trump does them.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/08/24/trump-intel-government-marketplace/

                    Op-ed discusses risks of Intel, in the future, making decisions more with politics in mind rather than economics.

                    The most immediate risk is that Intel’s decisions will increasingly be driven by political rather than commercial considerations. With the U.S. government as its largest shareholder, Intel will face constant pressure to align corporate decisions with the goals of whatever political party is in power. Will Intel locate or continue facilities — such as its long-delayed “megafab” in Ohio — based on economic efficiency or government priorities? Will it hire and fire based on merit or political connections? Will research and development priorities reflect market demands or bureaucratic preferences? Will standard corporate finance decisions that are routinely (and mistakenly) pilloried in Washington, such as dividends or stock buybacks, suddenly become taboo?

                    ...

                    The deal’s terms, ... : [The government] purchased shares at $20.47 instead of Friday’s $24.80 closing price — a discount at current shareholders’ expense. Intel’s board green-lit the below-market transaction without shareholder approval, showing how management now prioritizes government interests over fiduciary duties. And the deal allows the government to purchase an additional 5 percent of the company at $20 per share if Intel sells part of its struggling foundry business, thus distorting government and management views of specific corporate restructuring decisions.

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                      Just like we pointed at the likes of Huawei and say "don't buy from Huawei because the CCP owns them," the CCP probably points the finger at Intel and tell all the companies in China "don't buy from Intel because the U.S. government owns them."

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