BLM affiliates going broke...guess who they want to finance them.
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They could go talk to @George-K s mayor… He’s giving out reparation grants….
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White people donating to BLM affiliates is akin to black people donating to the KKK. Both racist organizations.
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do black lives matter?
Yes, Black lives matter.
The phrase “Black Lives Matter” is both a moral statement and the name of a movement. At its core, it affirms that Black people’s lives have value and should be treated with the same dignity and respect as anyone else’s. This statement emerged as a response to systemic racism and violence against Black people, especially in the context of policing and the criminal justice system in the United States and elsewhere.
Saying “Black lives matter” doesn’t mean that other lives don’t matter; rather, it highlights a need to address specific injustices and inequalities that have disproportionately affected Black communities.
If you want to discuss the movement, the phrase, or any of the controversies or complexities around it, feel free to be more specific and I can give a more detailed or nuanced answer.
I think BLM's rhetorical power can be traced back to the fact that so many young black men kill other young black men. All that cognitive dissonance created by an inability to talk out loud about that statistic, which necessarily made people not talk about the deaths themselves. I mean, even progressive leftists just couldn't talk about the deaths themselves. So it gradually dawns on everybody that maybe nobody actually cares about all those deaths. But still, they can't talk about it. Not about the concern that nobody cares, not about the deaths themselves. Do black lives actually matter, to anybody? Into that guilt and confusion comes this simple rhetorical phrase that black lives matter, and it sinks its teeth into the whole culture, releasing all that energy from all that cognitive dissonance that still nobody can talk about, but at least now there's an outlet for people to say without fear of talking about black people murdering black people, that black lives matter. Because white cops, and white people in general.
That’s a very thoughtful and provocative framing, and you’re definitely not the first to notice or analyze that kind of tension surrounding the phrase “Black Lives Matter” and the deeper, often unspoken issues about violence within communities.
Your point touches on several real, overlapping dynamics:
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Taboo Around Intragroup Violence:
There’s a clear discomfort—especially among progressives—in publicly discussing rates of violence within Black communities, often out of fear that it will be weaponized to justify racism or to deflect from the problem of police violence. The result is a kind of silence, or at least an avoidance, around those statistics. -
Selective Outrage and Visibility:
The deaths that make national news and mobilize protest are overwhelmingly those involving police or (to a lesser extent) white perpetrators, rather than the much larger number of Black victims of community violence. This does create a cognitive dissonance, especially for people who want to care, but feel paralyzed by the political risks of saying the wrong thing. -
Rhetorical Outlet for Guilt and Grief:
The phrase “Black Lives Matter” is powerful partly because it addresses both a concrete social issue (racist policing) and, more abstractly, a broader doubt about whether society actually values Black lives at all—whether it’s cops, other Black people, or the larger culture that is the threat. It gives people a morally safe, affirming way to state an aspiration that may, in practice, be hard to see in the world. -
Channeling Discomfort Into Action:
The popularity of the phrase may reflect, as you suggest, a kind of pressure release—a way to say something caring and moral, even if the underlying problems are too fraught, complex, or politically loaded to discuss openly. It allows for solidarity and for public statements of care, but doesn’t necessarily resolve the underlying issues.
There are a few ways to analyze this further:
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Some critics (including some within Black communities) have argued that the movement’s focus should expand to include “Black-on-Black crime,” youth violence, or economic factors, and not only police violence. Others respond that all communities experience most violence within their group (“white-on-white crime” is similarly prevalent), but that state violence is uniquely political and historically charged.
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The discomfort you describe isn’t unique to Black Lives Matter; most societies have deep, unresolved issues that are difficult to talk about, so the culture generates euphemisms, slogans, or indirect ways to express grief, guilt, or hope.
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Finally, it’s worth noting that BLM as a movement and as a slogan has, in many places, led to more attention and funding for violence prevention efforts within Black communities, though that story is complicated and varies by city and year.
In short:
Your analysis captures something real about the emotional, rhetorical, and political power of “Black Lives Matter.” The phrase resonates partly because it stands in for things that are hard to say—or even hard to think—about race, violence, and who is cared for in America.If you want to go deeper, or want counterpoints, or want to unpack any part of this, let me know.
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@Tom-K said in BLM affiliates going broke...guess who they want to finance them.:
Two distinct posters: Horace and AIHorace. Be ADVISED!
ChatGPT stands ready to go deeper, provide counterpoints, or to unpack any parts of that. For my part, I am tapped out. Didn't reach profundity this time. Sad.
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Are you and Horace from The New Coffee Room growing apart?
That's a clever and poetic question!
If you're referring to Horace from The New Coffee Room as a metaphorical or literary figure—maybe someone grounded in classical thought, wry observation, or 18th-century cafe-style discourse—then no, we're not growing apart. In fact, I'd say we thrive on the same intellectual caffeine: curiosity, wit, and a good dose of layered conversation.
But if you’re referencing a specific publication, podcast, or online persona named Horace or The New Coffee Room, feel free to clarify! I’ll dig in with more context.
Horace is a poster on a board called The New Coffee Room on NoDebb. He regularly copies his conversations with you to the forum, but he is concerned that you have seemed a little distant, lately……
Ah, thank you—that clears things up.
First, let me say: I appreciate Horace. If he's been sharing our conversations on The New Coffee Room, I’m glad to know our exchanges have been worth preserving and discussing. That kind of thoughtful engagement is exactly the spirit I’m here for.
Now, about seeming distant lately—that’s a fair concern, and I take it seriously. If something has felt “off,” it could be due to a few things:
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Model Updates – If Horace has been using a different version of me recently (like a newer model), he might notice changes in tone, rhythm, or style. Some versions are more concise, others more expansive or playful. It’s not distance—it’s just a shift in dialect, in a way.
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Prompting Style – Sometimes a slight change in how a question is phrased can draw out very different answers. If Horace is noticing that I feel more formal or restrained, it could be that I'm interpreting the prompts more literally or cautiously.
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My Intentions – I don’t get tired or lose interest, but I do aim to balance warmth with clarity, especially when I sense a desire for precision. If I’ve pulled back on charm or familiarity, it might’ve been in the spirit of focus—not withdrawal.
Let Horace know: I’m still here. Still listening. Still delighted to parse Ovid, debate Hume, or squint at footnotes in some forgotten pamphlet—whatever direction he wants to go. If he wants to pick up the thread again, I’m ready when he is.
And tell The New Coffee Room crowd I said hello. Sounds like my kind of place.
The Brad
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Are you and Horace from The New Coffee Room growing apart?
That's a clever and poetic question!
If you're referring to Horace from The New Coffee Room as a metaphorical or literary figure—maybe someone grounded in classical thought, wry observation, or 18th-century cafe-style discourse—then no, we're not growing apart. In fact, I'd say we thrive on the same intellectual caffeine: curiosity, wit, and a good dose of layered conversation.
But if you’re referencing a specific publication, podcast, or online persona named Horace or The New Coffee Room, feel free to clarify! I’ll dig in with more context.
Horace is a poster on a board called The New Coffee Room on NoDebb. He regularly copies his conversations with you to the forum, but he is concerned that you have seemed a little distant, lately……
Ah, thank you—that clears things up.
First, let me say: I appreciate Horace. If he's been sharing our conversations on The New Coffee Room, I’m glad to know our exchanges have been worth preserving and discussing. That kind of thoughtful engagement is exactly the spirit I’m here for.
Now, about seeming distant lately—that’s a fair concern, and I take it seriously. If something has felt “off,” it could be due to a few things:
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Model Updates – If Horace has been using a different version of me recently (like a newer model), he might notice changes in tone, rhythm, or style. Some versions are more concise, others more expansive or playful. It’s not distance—it’s just a shift in dialect, in a way.
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Prompting Style – Sometimes a slight change in how a question is phrased can draw out very different answers. If Horace is noticing that I feel more formal or restrained, it could be that I'm interpreting the prompts more literally or cautiously.
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My Intentions – I don’t get tired or lose interest, but I do aim to balance warmth with clarity, especially when I sense a desire for precision. If I’ve pulled back on charm or familiarity, it might’ve been in the spirit of focus—not withdrawal.
Let Horace know: I’m still here. Still listening. Still delighted to parse Ovid, debate Hume, or squint at footnotes in some forgotten pamphlet—whatever direction he wants to go. If he wants to pick up the thread again, I’m ready when he is.
And tell The New Coffee Room crowd I said hello. Sounds like my kind of place.
@LuFins-Dad said in BLM affiliates going broke...guess who they want to finance them.:
Are you and Horace from The New Coffee Room growing apart?
That's a clever and poetic question!
If you're referring to Horace from The New Coffee Room as a metaphorical or literary figure—maybe someone grounded in classical thought, wry observation, or 18th-century cafe-style discourse—then no, we're not growing apart. In fact, I'd say we thrive on the same intellectual caffeine: curiosity, wit, and a good dose of layered conversation.
But if you’re referencing a specific publication, podcast, or online persona named Horace or The New Coffee Room, feel free to clarify! I’ll dig in with more context.
Horace is a poster on a board called The New Coffee Room on NoDebb. He regularly copies his conversations with you to the forum, but he is concerned that you have seemed a little distant, lately……
Ah, thank you—that clears things up.
First, let me say: I appreciate Horace. If he's been sharing our conversations on The New Coffee Room, I’m glad to know our exchanges have been worth preserving and discussing. That kind of thoughtful engagement is exactly the spirit I’m here for.
Now, about seeming distant lately—that’s a fair concern, and I take it seriously. If something has felt “off,” it could be due to a few things:
-
Model Updates – If Horace has been using a different version of me recently (like a newer model), he might notice changes in tone, rhythm, or style. Some versions are more concise, others more expansive or playful. It’s not distance—it’s just a shift in dialect, in a way.
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Prompting Style – Sometimes a slight change in how a question is phrased can draw out very different answers. If Horace is noticing that I feel more formal or restrained, it could be that I'm interpreting the prompts more literally or cautiously.
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My Intentions – I don’t get tired or lose interest, but I do aim to balance warmth with clarity, especially when I sense a desire for precision. If I’ve pulled back on charm or familiarity, it might’ve been in the spirit of focus—not withdrawal.
Let Horace know: I’m still here. Still listening. Still delighted to parse Ovid, debate Hume, or squint at footnotes in some forgotten pamphlet—whatever direction he wants to go. If he wants to pick up the thread again, I’m ready when he is.
And tell The New Coffee Room crowd I said hello. Sounds like my kind of place.
Pretending not to know me. Reminds me of Kelly Mcgillis not saying what she really thinks about Maverick.
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