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Falsifiability

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  • MikM Offline
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    Popper - philosopher of science who championed falsifiability as the true test of a scientific theory's strength and validity.

    In a world brimming with bold ideas and sweeping theories, Karl Popper asked a deceptively simple question: What makes a theory scientific?

    Born in 1902 in Vienna, Popper grew up surrounded by intellectual giants—Freud, Marx, Einstein—all proposing grand visions of how the world worked. But as he studied their theories, Popper noticed something troubling. Many of these ideas seemed to explain everything—but couldn’t be proven wrong. No matter what happened, they could twist the facts to fit.

    Popper saw danger in this. If a theory could never be challenged, he reasoned, then it wasn’t truly scientific. A real scientific theory, he argued, must take a risk—it must make predictions that could be tested and potentially proven false. This was the heart of his great contribution: the principle of falsifiability.

    Rather than seeking confirmation, Popper urged scientists to try to disprove their ideas. If a theory survived repeated attempts to falsify it, it grew stronger. If not—it had to go. In this way, science wasn’t a steady march toward truth, but a bold, error-prone process of conjecture and refutation.

    His ideas shifted the philosophy of science, challenging how researchers across disciplines defined progress and knowledge. Popper moved the goalposts: science wasn't about certainty, but about being testable, tentative, and open to revision.
    Thanks to Karl Popper, we now see science not as a collection of facts, but as a living method—a way of asking questions, taking intellectual risks, and never settling for easy answers.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      That's where the beautiful phrase "not even wrong" comes from. An idea, or theory, can be so vacuous, that it's not even wrong.

      Education is extremely important.

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        If I recall correctly, it was Popper who maintained that the bolder the conjecture, the more difficult is it is to refute.

        Elbows up!

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          One of the complaints about string theory is its non falsifiability.

          You were warned.

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            @Moonbat talked a lot about falsifiability.
            Wonder what he's up to these days.

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              If I recall correctly, it was Popper who maintained that the bolder the conjecture, the more difficult is it is to refute.

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              @Renauda said in Falsifiability:

              If I recall correctly, it was Popper who maintained that the bolder the conjecture, the more difficult is it is to refute.

              True. So, I spent the afternoon at my University Club with a bunch of BA Christians with them trying to explain why the dinosaurs existed at the same time as humans. Their logic was IMPOSSIBLE to refute. "Oh, that was a miracle!" DAMN!

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Moonbat talked a lot about falsifiability.
                Wonder what he's up to these days.

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                @Axtremus said in Falsifiability:

                @Moonbat talked a lot about falsifiability.
                Wonder what he's up to these days.

                Stopped posting right around the time GK did. And I don't believe in coincidences.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  @Axtremus said in Falsifiability:

                  @Moonbat talked a lot about falsifiability.
                  Wonder what he's up to these days.

                  Stopped posting right around the time GK did. And I don't believe in coincidences.

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                  @Horace said in Falsifiability:

                  And I don't believe in coincidences.

                  Well played.

                  You were warned.

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