Make America Globalist Again
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wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 20:52 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 13:30 last edited by taiwan_girl
I am much more of a "globalist" than an "isolationist" -
wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 13:51 last edited by
I think the main pro-isolationism messaging boils down to empathy for people who would have died of a fentanyl overdose, but were saved by a factory job. As a country, we're really, really prioritizing that story. It's a strange thing to put at the top of the economic priority list.
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wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 13:52 last edited by
Our efforts in that respect should be targeted to industries that are a matter of national security. Steel, minerals, energy, chips etc. I agree with stopping the flow of fentanyl, but there is no serious history of success in stopping drugs from coming in. too much demand.
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Our efforts in that respect should be targeted to industries that are a matter of national security. Steel, minerals, energy, chips etc. I agree with stopping the flow of fentanyl, but there is no serious history of success in stopping drugs from coming in. too much demand.
wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 13:57 last edited by@Mik said in Make America Globalist Again:
too much demand.
Agree.
We talked a bit about it before, but telling a poor farmer not to plant opium poppies is not going to work when the choice for them comes down to being able to eat or not eat. Yes, you can try and limit the supply, but for something like drugs, I think that limiting demand is more effective.
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wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 14:03 last edited by
It's the Canadian fentanyl that puzzles me. I'm pretty sure that more drugs come into Canada from the US than vice versa. Or maybe he's concerned about the balance of the drug trade?
Or maybe he's just full of shit. Paging William of Ockham?
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I think the main pro-isolationism messaging boils down to empathy for people who would have died of a fentanyl overdose, but were saved by a factory job. As a country, we're really, really prioritizing that story. It's a strange thing to put at the top of the economic priority list.
wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 16:34 last edited by@Horace said in Make America Globalist Again:
I think the main pro-isolationism messaging boils down to empathy for people who would have died of a fentanyl overdose, but were saved by a factory job. As a country, we're really, really prioritizing that story. It's a strange thing to put at the top of the economic priority list.
Agreed. I don't think it was the factory job by itself. It was the factory job along with the cultural norm of people able to get married and have a regular life if you were willing to buckle down and do an honest day's work.
The culture part of the equation is completely ignored.