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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 17:09 last edited by
    #71

    I know you think you're all special, but the same debates are going in other countries too.

    Americans don't have a monopoly on being up themselves.

    I was only joking

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      17 Sept 2020, 17:09

      I know you think you're all special, but the same debates are going in other countries too.

      Americans don't have a monopoly on being up themselves.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 17:28 last edited by
      #72

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s indoor rally:

      I know you think you're all special, but the same debates are going in other countries too.

      Americans don't have a monopoly on being up themselves.

      Yeah, but we're the best at it.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 17:52 last edited by
        #73

        There's someone who's never been to Paris.

        I was only joking

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          Rainman
          wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 18:34 last edited by
          #74

          Well, Boris is quite a letdown.
          But maybe it will get better as everyone in England or maybe throughout GB will get the reeducation indoctrination that I read about yesterday. We will be grateful to see how it pans out, although we already do these trainings in our public schools and have been for several years. Maybe we can trade indoctrinations?
          I'm so sick of this shit.

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          • T taiwan_girl
            17 Sept 2020, 14:41

            @Rainman lol. 😂

            It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

            As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

            The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

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            Larry
            wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:28 last edited by
            #75

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

            @Rainman lol. 😂

            It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

            As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

            The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

            Let me help you understand Americans.

            We don't like being ordered around, told what to do. This is a difficult thing to understand if one comes from a country where you were taught from an early age that your individual rights are not as important as society at large... where you are told what to do and when to do it and conditioned to just accept it.

            Most Americans don't object to being asked to wear a mask. What they don't like is being ordered to wear a mask, threatened with retribution if they don't comply. It's all in how you approach it. Many who vehemenently object to being ordered to wear a mask will still wear one, because their own common sense tells them they should wear it. But they will make it clear it is THEIR choice to wear it, not because government forced them to wear it.

            This is a GOOD thing. Yes, there will be some knobheads who don't give a rat's ass about other people and will not wear a mask no matter what - but what is an important distinction here is that in America we have a right to make that decision. It might seem silly regarding masks, but that attitude will come in quite handy when government says they want our guns, they are closing our churches, etc.

            ALL governments will gradually become more burdensome to the citizenry over time, grab more and more control. But it's a lot harder to do when the citizens are able to challenge that growth of control incrementally. There is nothing in our Constitution that allows our government to force us to wear masks. So we can either sit back and allow our government to illegally take another tiny piece of control, erode our freedom by another little smidgen, or we can raise a stink and force government to stay in their lane.

            The problem here isn't that compliance is good, individualism bad. The problem is how Americans were approached. No one asked people to wear masks. State and local governments ORDERED people to wear masks. Not only is that overstepping their authority, it triggers the very attitude by many citizens that made America what it is today.

            So if you want Americans to do something, show them why it's a good idea and then ASK them. Don't walk out in the middle of some experts saying masks are useless, some saying the help, and others saying masks will eliminate the virus altogether, and then tell us we WILL wear a mask or we will be prosecuted or some such. Because a whole lot of us will turn around and tell you to go fuck yourself.

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              Rainman
              wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:40 last edited by
              #76

              Good post, Larry. But I think you could also send it to Trump.
              He could have handled it all much better, proactively convincing everyone about exactly what you pointed out, and that we should all wear masks even though there should not be forced compliance at any level.
              Instead, he went without a mask on many occasions, as if he was somehow above it all. And, with the care around him that no one gets close, it's probably true, he is above it all, or at least a safe distance away. But, it sends the wrong message, and divides instead of bringing people together.

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              • L Larry
                17 Sept 2020, 20:28

                @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                @Rainman lol. 😂

                It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

                As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

                The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

                Let me help you understand Americans.

                We don't like being ordered around, told what to do. This is a difficult thing to understand if one comes from a country where you were taught from an early age that your individual rights are not as important as society at large... where you are told what to do and when to do it and conditioned to just accept it.

                Most Americans don't object to being asked to wear a mask. What they don't like is being ordered to wear a mask, threatened with retribution if they don't comply. It's all in how you approach it. Many who vehemenently object to being ordered to wear a mask will still wear one, because their own common sense tells them they should wear it. But they will make it clear it is THEIR choice to wear it, not because government forced them to wear it.

                This is a GOOD thing. Yes, there will be some knobheads who don't give a rat's ass about other people and will not wear a mask no matter what - but what is an important distinction here is that in America we have a right to make that decision. It might seem silly regarding masks, but that attitude will come in quite handy when government says they want our guns, they are closing our churches, etc.

                ALL governments will gradually become more burdensome to the citizenry over time, grab more and more control. But it's a lot harder to do when the citizens are able to challenge that growth of control incrementally. There is nothing in our Constitution that allows our government to force us to wear masks. So we can either sit back and allow our government to illegally take another tiny piece of control, erode our freedom by another little smidgen, or we can raise a stink and force government to stay in their lane.

                The problem here isn't that compliance is good, individualism bad. The problem is how Americans were approached. No one asked people to wear masks. State and local governments ORDERED people to wear masks. Not only is that overstepping their authority, it triggers the very attitude by many citizens that made America what it is today.

                So if you want Americans to do something, show them why it's a good idea and then ASK them. Don't walk out in the middle of some experts saying masks are useless, some saying the help, and others saying masks will eliminate the virus altogether, and then tell us we WILL wear a mask or we will be prosecuted or some such. Because a whole lot of us will turn around and tell you to go fuck yourself.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:48 last edited by
                #77

                @Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                We don't like being ordered around, told what to do.

                Hey @Larry, I order you to defend everything Trump does, I order you to vote for Trump, and I order you to post expletives.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:49 last edited by
                  #78

                  Go fuck yourself.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:50 last edited by
                    #79

                    Typical thoughtless response by Ax. Misunderstanding that the opposite of order is not negated order, but rather, chaos. Ax, do better please. Your fans are losing faith. Phibes and jon are all you'll have left soon. Get it? "Left", like your dumb politics.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:52 last edited by Larry
                      #80

                      @Axtremus

                      You know... I used to think you were probably an ok guy, just with a bit of a personality disorder. But I have come to the realization that you are not just a social embecile, you're also mentally defective.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:55 last edited by
                        #81

                        Well, at least Larry complied with one of them...

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                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          17 Sept 2020, 20:48

                          @Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                          We don't like being ordered around, told what to do.

                          Hey @Larry, I order you to defend everything Trump does, I order you to vote for Trump, and I order you to post expletives.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 20:58 last edited by
                          #82

                          @Axtremus said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                          @Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                          We don't like being ordered around, told what to do.

                          Hey @Larry, I order you to defend everything Trump does, I order you to vote for Trump, and I order you to post expletives.

                          At least you're consistent. But so are mosquitoes...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 17 Sept 2020, 21:01 last edited by
                            #83

                            Except I didn't say it because he ordered me to, I said it because a wanted to...

                            Here's a question for you...

                            What would happen to Ax if he had said that to me in person?

                            A. Nothing.

                            B. He would have to ask someone to find his teeth for him as he laid on a stretcher.

                            C. He wouldn't be conscious so his teeth would just get lost in the shuffle to get him into the ambulance..

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                              Rainman
                              wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 00:05 last edited by
                              #84

                              Seriously, Larry?
                              I'd vote "A."
                              You'd listen, remark, turn a lighter shade of pale, shake your head and walk off with a few prize words not fit for family hour.

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 00:08 last edited by
                                #85

                                Then you'd come over to me, and I'd show you one of my owees, and ask you to kiss it to make it better.
                                Emergency Emoji Rapid Response Team needed!!!!
                                HELP me Ax, HELP me!!!!

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 00:25 last edited by
                                  #86

                                  I'm just a pussycat, nowadays. Ever since I got ripped open, I haven't been able to pick a grown man up by the throat.

                                  I'm old and frail...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • L Larry
                                    17 Sept 2020, 20:28

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                    @Rainman lol. 😂

                                    It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

                                    As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

                                    The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

                                    Let me help you understand Americans.

                                    We don't like being ordered around, told what to do. This is a difficult thing to understand if one comes from a country where you were taught from an early age that your individual rights are not as important as society at large... where you are told what to do and when to do it and conditioned to just accept it.

                                    Most Americans don't object to being asked to wear a mask. What they don't like is being ordered to wear a mask, threatened with retribution if they don't comply. It's all in how you approach it. Many who vehemenently object to being ordered to wear a mask will still wear one, because their own common sense tells them they should wear it. But they will make it clear it is THEIR choice to wear it, not because government forced them to wear it.

                                    This is a GOOD thing. Yes, there will be some knobheads who don't give a rat's ass about other people and will not wear a mask no matter what - but what is an important distinction here is that in America we have a right to make that decision. It might seem silly regarding masks, but that attitude will come in quite handy when government says they want our guns, they are closing our churches, etc.

                                    ALL governments will gradually become more burdensome to the citizenry over time, grab more and more control. But it's a lot harder to do when the citizens are able to challenge that growth of control incrementally. There is nothing in our Constitution that allows our government to force us to wear masks. So we can either sit back and allow our government to illegally take another tiny piece of control, erode our freedom by another little smidgen, or we can raise a stink and force government to stay in their lane.

                                    The problem here isn't that compliance is good, individualism bad. The problem is how Americans were approached. No one asked people to wear masks. State and local governments ORDERED people to wear masks. Not only is that overstepping their authority, it triggers the very attitude by many citizens that made America what it is today.

                                    So if you want Americans to do something, show them why it's a good idea and then ASK them. Don't walk out in the middle of some experts saying masks are useless, some saying the help, and others saying masks will eliminate the virus altogether, and then tell us we WILL wear a mask or we will be prosecuted or some such. Because a whole lot of us will turn around and tell you to go fuck yourself.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 01:24 last edited by
                                    #87

                                    @Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                    @Rainman lol. 😂

                                    It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

                                    As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

                                    The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

                                    Let me help you understand Americans.

                                    We don't like being ordered around, told what to do. This is a difficult thing to understand if one comes from a country where you were taught from an early age that your individual rights are not as important as society at large... where you are told what to do and when to do it and conditioned to just accept it.

                                    Most Americans don't object to being asked to wear a mask. What they don't like is being ordered to wear a mask, threatened with retribution if they don't comply. It's all in how you approach it. Many who vehemenently object to being ordered to wear a mask will still wear one, because their own common sense tells them they should wear it. But they will make it clear it is THEIR choice to wear it, not because government forced them to wear it.

                                    This is a GOOD thing. Yes, there will be some knobheads who don't give a rat's ass about other people and will not wear a mask no matter what - but what is an important distinction here is that in America we have a right to make that decision. It might seem silly regarding masks, but that attitude will come in quite handy when government says they want our guns, they are closing our churches, etc.

                                    ALL governments will gradually become more burdensome to the citizenry over time, grab more and more control. But it's a lot harder to do when the citizens are able to challenge that growth of control incrementally. There is nothing in our Constitution that allows our government to force us to wear masks. So we can either sit back and allow our government to illegally take another tiny piece of control, erode our freedom by another little smidgen, or we can raise a stink and force government to stay in their lane.

                                    The problem here isn't that compliance is good, individualism bad. The problem is how Americans were approached. No one asked people to wear masks. State and local governments ORDERED people to wear masks. Not only is that overstepping their authority, it triggers the very attitude by many citizens that made America what it is today.

                                    So if you want Americans to do something, show them why it's a good idea and then ASK them. Don't walk out in the middle of some experts saying masks are useless, some saying the help, and others saying masks will eliminate the virus altogether, and then tell us we WILL wear a mask or we will be prosecuted or some such. Because a whole lot of us will turn around and tell you to go fuck yourself.

                                    Good post, but to me, it doesn't make sense in regards to masks.

                                    There are local rules all over. Some are specific for a certain city, some for the whole state

                                    for example
                                    must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                    must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                    for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                    no parking on this side of the street
                                    no smoking in indoor public place
                                    no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant (okay, okay, this is not an ordinance, but common curtesy. LOL Still, nobody does it)

                                    We all have to follow rules that we may not like. That is part of being a civilized person. As I say before, sometimes the common good of society is more important than that of one individual.

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                                    • T taiwan_girl
                                      18 Sept 2020, 01:24

                                      @Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                      @Rainman lol. 😂

                                      It just frustrates me when there is something simple that can be done, and realistically is not that big of a thing to follow, and people start saying “ It’s against my rights“

                                      As John Doh said, part of living in a society is following rules. I may not like or agree with everyone of the rules, but as part of society I need to follow them.

                                      The same people who are complaining about wearing a mask Are usually the same ones that complain about when someone doesn’t follow the rules (kneeling for National song for example).

                                      Let me help you understand Americans.

                                      We don't like being ordered around, told what to do. This is a difficult thing to understand if one comes from a country where you were taught from an early age that your individual rights are not as important as society at large... where you are told what to do and when to do it and conditioned to just accept it.

                                      Most Americans don't object to being asked to wear a mask. What they don't like is being ordered to wear a mask, threatened with retribution if they don't comply. It's all in how you approach it. Many who vehemenently object to being ordered to wear a mask will still wear one, because their own common sense tells them they should wear it. But they will make it clear it is THEIR choice to wear it, not because government forced them to wear it.

                                      This is a GOOD thing. Yes, there will be some knobheads who don't give a rat's ass about other people and will not wear a mask no matter what - but what is an important distinction here is that in America we have a right to make that decision. It might seem silly regarding masks, but that attitude will come in quite handy when government says they want our guns, they are closing our churches, etc.

                                      ALL governments will gradually become more burdensome to the citizenry over time, grab more and more control. But it's a lot harder to do when the citizens are able to challenge that growth of control incrementally. There is nothing in our Constitution that allows our government to force us to wear masks. So we can either sit back and allow our government to illegally take another tiny piece of control, erode our freedom by another little smidgen, or we can raise a stink and force government to stay in their lane.

                                      The problem here isn't that compliance is good, individualism bad. The problem is how Americans were approached. No one asked people to wear masks. State and local governments ORDERED people to wear masks. Not only is that overstepping their authority, it triggers the very attitude by many citizens that made America what it is today.

                                      So if you want Americans to do something, show them why it's a good idea and then ASK them. Don't walk out in the middle of some experts saying masks are useless, some saying the help, and others saying masks will eliminate the virus altogether, and then tell us we WILL wear a mask or we will be prosecuted or some such. Because a whole lot of us will turn around and tell you to go fuck yourself.

                                      Good post, but to me, it doesn't make sense in regards to masks.

                                      There are local rules all over. Some are specific for a certain city, some for the whole state

                                      for example
                                      must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                      must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                      for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                      no parking on this side of the street
                                      no smoking in indoor public place
                                      no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant (okay, okay, this is not an ordinance, but common curtesy. LOL Still, nobody does it)

                                      We all have to follow rules that we may not like. That is part of being a civilized person. As I say before, sometimes the common good of society is more important than that of one individual.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 01:46 last edited by
                                      #88

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                      for example
                                      must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                      must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                      for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                      no parking on this side of the street
                                      no smoking in indoor public place
                                      no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant

                                      Private institutions, and they can establish whatever rules they wish, as long as they're not discriminatory against any group (Jews, Asians, Blacks).

                                      Government mandating something is totally different. The parking and smoking bans are a matter of laws. AFAIK, no legislation mandating masks has been enacted. I'm not saying that it's wrong, or a bad suggestion, but it's not law. It's an ill-defined gubernatorial "mandate."

                                      Again, I don't think it's wrong, but I question its legality.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        18 Sept 2020, 01:46

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                        for example
                                        must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                        must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                        for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                        no parking on this side of the street
                                        no smoking in indoor public place
                                        no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant

                                        Private institutions, and they can establish whatever rules they wish, as long as they're not discriminatory against any group (Jews, Asians, Blacks).

                                        Government mandating something is totally different. The parking and smoking bans are a matter of laws. AFAIK, no legislation mandating masks has been enacted. I'm not saying that it's wrong, or a bad suggestion, but it's not law. It's an ill-defined gubernatorial "mandate."

                                        Again, I don't think it's wrong, but I question its legality.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 02:02 last edited by
                                        #89

                                        @George-K said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                        for example
                                        must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                        must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                        for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                        no parking on this side of the street
                                        no smoking in indoor public place
                                        no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant

                                        Private institutions, and they can establish whatever rules they wish, as long as they're not discriminatory against any group (Jews, Asians, Blacks).

                                        Government mandating something is totally different. The parking and smoking bans are a matter of laws. AFAIK, no legislation mandating masks has been enacted. I'm not saying that it's wrong, or a bad suggestion, but it's not law. It's an ill-defined gubernatorial "mandate."

                                        Again, I don't think it's wrong, but I question its legality.

                                        I thought that most of those that were issued by governor were similar to the executive order that is issued by the President. I think (but really dont know LOL) that something that is written that gives authority for a governor to make an order like that?

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          18 Sept 2020, 02:02

                                          @George-K said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                          for example
                                          must wear long pants in restaurant x
                                          must wear pants/shoes/shirts to enter
                                          for golf course, must wear a collar shirt
                                          no parking on this side of the street
                                          no smoking in indoor public place
                                          no picking food off of someones plate at another table at a restaurant

                                          Private institutions, and they can establish whatever rules they wish, as long as they're not discriminatory against any group (Jews, Asians, Blacks).

                                          Government mandating something is totally different. The parking and smoking bans are a matter of laws. AFAIK, no legislation mandating masks has been enacted. I'm not saying that it's wrong, or a bad suggestion, but it's not law. It's an ill-defined gubernatorial "mandate."

                                          Again, I don't think it's wrong, but I question its legality.

                                          I thought that most of those that were issued by governor were similar to the executive order that is issued by the President. I think (but really dont know LOL) that something that is written that gives authority for a governor to make an order like that?

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 02:04 last edited by
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:

                                          I thought that most of those that were issued by governor were similar to the executive order that is issued by the President. I think (but really dont know LOL

                                          Good point.

                                          Does the governor of a state have the authority to issue such mandates? I'd guess it's in each state's constitution.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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