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A 4-hour debate?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #5

    No. They'd both have people feeding them answers.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      No. They'd both have people feeding them answers.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #6

      @Mik said in A 4-hour debate?:

      No. They'd both have people feeding them answers.

      That wouldn't work at all with the format of the show.

      Please love yourself.

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        Friday
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        It could be entertaining if it were a simple debate with the podcasters and NO fed questions. But 4 hours? I don't know if I could stay with it that long.

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        • F Friday

          It could be entertaining if it were a simple debate with the podcasters and NO fed questions. But 4 hours? I don't know if I could stay with it that long.

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          George K
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          #8

          @Friday said in A 4-hour debate?:

          It could be entertaining if it were a simple debate with the podcasters and NO fed questions.

          That was sort of the point. Nothing there other than live cameras, and three people in the room: Rogan, Teh Donald and Teh Joe.

          It would be a hoot.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            Biden won't do it, but if it became beneficial to posture like he could, but just doesn't want to, his team would deploy the Rogan-as-Alt-Right excuse.

            Education is extremely important.

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              George K
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              #10

              Rogan? The guy who supported Bernie comes of as the "alt-right" excuse? That's a bit of a stretch, no?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Horace
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                #11

                What's not a bit of a stretch when it comes to politically useful narratives? Rogan-as-Alt-Right is not unheard of as a thing left leaning tribalists nod to.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  If I had to listen to Trump telling us how awesome he was for 4 hours, I'd open at least one vein, quite likely a few. They might not all belong to me.

                  I was only joking

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                    If I had to listen to Trump telling us how awesome he was for 4 hours, I'd open at least one vein, quite likely a few. They might not all belong to me.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in A 4-hour debate?:

                    If I had to listen to Trump telling us how awesome he was for 4 hours years, I'd open at least one vein, quite likely a few. They might not all belong to me.

                    Fixed.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      Thankfully, all my electrical devices have 'off buttons'. I'm a little surprised more people don't use them - they're freaking magical.

                      I was only joking

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        #15

                        Why do you get taken in by a shock jock?

                        "Four hours" aside, Podcasting being the medium aside, can Joe Rogan bring adequate breadth of knowledge, depth of understanding, or sufficient thoughtfulness to moderate a debate concerning the American Presidency?

                        Get me Charlie Rose, Fareed Zakaria, Andrew Sullivan, Christiane Amanpour, heck get me Bill Gates to moderate the debate.

                        The length of time and the choice of medium are secondary. If you're going to have a moderator at all, the intellect, temperament, and impartiality of the moderator should come first.

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                          Copper
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                          I think about 10 minutes would be right

                          More than that wouldn't change anything

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                            I would watch that. The multiple hour stuff would be essential.

                            Rogan is pretty good at going deep, beyond the phrases and the bs.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              Why do you get taken in by a shock jock?

                              "Four hours" aside, Podcasting being the medium aside, can Joe Rogan bring adequate breadth of knowledge, depth of understanding, or sufficient thoughtfulness to moderate a debate concerning the American Presidency?

                              Get me Charlie Rose, Fareed Zakaria, Andrew Sullivan, Christiane Amanpour, heck get me Bill Gates to moderate the debate.

                              The length of time and the choice of medium are secondary. If you're going to have a moderator at all, the intellect, temperament, and impartiality of the moderator should come first.

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                              Horace
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                              @Axtremus said in A 4-hour debate?:

                              Why do you get taken in by a shock jock?

                              Why did you get taken in by whomever told you that Rogan is a "shock jock"? That's as divorced from reality as calling him alt-right is.

                              "Four hours" aside, Podcasting being the medium aside, can Joe Rogan bring adequate breadth of knowledge, depth of understanding, or sufficient thoughtfulness to moderate a debate concerning the American Presidency?

                              Get me Charlie Rose, Fareed Zakaria, Andrew Sullivan, Christiane Amanpour, heck get me Bill Gates to moderate the debate.

                              The length of time and the choice of medium are secondary. If you're going to have a moderator at all, the intellect, temperament, and impartiality of the moderator should come first.

                              Rogan has 'moderated' long form debates before. Maybe even for debates you might respect, such as Jack Dorsey vs Tim Poole. He does fine.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                Why do you get taken in by a shock jock?

                                "Four hours" aside, Podcasting being the medium aside, can Joe Rogan bring adequate breadth of knowledge, depth of understanding, or sufficient thoughtfulness to moderate a debate concerning the American Presidency?

                                Get me Charlie Rose, Fareed Zakaria, Andrew Sullivan, Christiane Amanpour, heck get me Bill Gates to moderate the debate.

                                The length of time and the choice of medium are secondary. If you're going to have a moderator at all, the intellect, temperament, and impartiality of the moderator should come first.

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                                @Axtremus said in A 4-hour debate?:

                                Why do you get taken in by a shock jock?

                                "Four hours" aside, Podcasting being the medium aside, can Joe Rogan bring adequate breadth of knowledge, depth of understanding, or sufficient thoughtfulness to moderate a debate concerning the American Presidency?

                                Get me Charlie Rose, Fareed Zakaria, Andrew Sullivan, Christiane Amanpour, heck get me Bill Gates to moderate the debate.

                                The length of time and the choice of medium are secondary. If you're going to have a moderator at all, the intellect, temperament, and impartiality of the moderator should come first.

                                Ever listen to Joe?

                                He could do it.

                                Trump could do it.

                                Biden couldn't find the building without help.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
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                                  #20

                                  I would listen to a "debate" moderated by Sarah Palin's amateur gynecologist Sullivan. The others?

                                  Nah.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                                    #21

                                    A debate of that length and format might well get into their real thinking, past the soundbites. When you get Trump taking about a lot of subjects in depth you find out that he knows quite a bit.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      It is interesting that the "original" debates, such as between President Lincoln and Senator Douglas, the first person would speak for 1 hour, the second person would reply for 1.5 hours, and then the 1st person would re-reply for 0.5 hours.

                                      Total was 3 hours.

                                      I think that something like that would not work in todays world. Most people have the small attention span. LOL

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        From what I understand, historians found the long winded monologues ultra boring. Even from the perspective of a professional historian. Another example of this is the guy who spoke before Lincoln at Gettysburg. He droned for like 3 hours.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Personal communication was much more important then. Hell, if you look at the letters they wrote, thye were long winded too.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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