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  • T taiwan_girl
    15 Sept 2020, 15:07

    @Horace said in Second Wave?:

    I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

    Good luck!!!! 🍀

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    Horace
    wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:24 last edited by
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    @taiwan_girl said in Second Wave?:

    @Horace said in Second Wave?:

    I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

    Good luck!!!! 🍀

    Thanks TG. Third time's a charm!

    Education is extremely important.

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    • H Horace
      15 Sept 2020, 14:33

      I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:50 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Second Wave?:

      I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.

      Horace, I work with COVID patients. The phlebotomist couldn't stick one Sunday, so I had to gown up and go procure the specimens. Twice.

      I lie my happy ass off.🤠

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • B bachophile
        15 Sept 2020, 03:23

        Less HCQ

        But seriously I think there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it.

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        George K
        wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:57 last edited by
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        @bachophile said in Second Wave?:

        there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it

        You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          15 Sept 2020, 15:57

          @bachophile said in Second Wave?:

          there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it

          You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?

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          bachophile
          wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 16:33 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Second Wave?:

          @bachophile said in Second Wave?:

          there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it

          You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?

          Different? Much less panic and therefore much less being strict about things.

          Some of the panicky stuff we did, wiping down everything, not leaving the house at all, that’s all gone by the way side.

          But in terms of numbers we are 100 times worse. No more endemic areas or hot zones. Now everywhere is a hot zone. The spread is basically nationwide.

          Medically, a lot less intubations. Lots of vents sitting in storage unused after there’s was a mad rush to get more and more, remember that?

          A lot of better care with dexa and remdesevir. But the beds are filling up fast and that’s going to have an impact

          Anyway, lockdown now but it’s not as strict. People can go to work as long as there is no public service rendered. Like restaurants are all closed. But private offices are all open.

          What’s the same? Still a royal pain in the ass.

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            Nunatax
            wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 17:44 last edited by
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            In our tiny little country, there’s a big discussion going on between virologists and a “health economist” on whether the current increase of infection rate is due to the increased testing rate or because of a second wave. I have no clue who is right...

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              bachophile
              wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 19:00 last edited by
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              All u have to do is check the percentage of positives from the number of tests. If it’s going up, then it’s spreading. The absolute count is less relevant.

              If you are above 10% then there is a lot of Covid around.

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              • B bachophile
                18 Sept 2020, 19:00

                All u have to do is check the percentage of positives from the number of tests. If it’s going up, then it’s spreading. The absolute count is less relevant.

                If you are above 10% then there is a lot of Covid around.

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                Nunatax
                wrote on 18 Sept 2020, 21:20 last edited by
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                @bachophile I’m not sure if it’s that simple. At the moment, a large portion of the people getting tested, are those who have to be tested because they are returning from vacation from high risk zones. That’s a very different testing strategy compared to a few months ago. Is that comparable?

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 00:49 last edited by
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                  Thailand is still quite strict. Anybody arriving from overseas (actually outside the country) has to quarantine for 14 days, no matter if Thai passport holder or other country. Government will provide hotel and three meals, but you are not allowed to leave. A friend of my recently returned from overseas and had to stay at a hotel for 2 weeks. Here is a picture of the leaving of the meals outside her door. She was quite bored, but it was actually a pretty nice 4* hotel. LOL

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                  The positive thing is that Thailand has had only a couple of "internal transmissions" of COVID during the last 3 months.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 12:53 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl said in Second Wave?:

                    but it was actually a pretty nice 4* hotel.

                    Uh-oh. The dreaded 4 asterisk hotel.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      20 Sept 2020, 12:53

                      @taiwan_girl said in Second Wave?:

                      but it was actually a pretty nice 4* hotel.

                      Uh-oh. The dreaded 4 asterisk hotel.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 23:55 last edited by
                      #29

                      @jon-nyc 😂

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 21 Sept 2020, 00:00 last edited by Horace
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                        It's trick advertising.

                        4*

                        Then in fine print:

                        ** on a scale from 4 to 10

                        Education is extremely important.

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