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DEI goes commercial?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    Literally… Every frigging podcast that I listen to keeps having this commercial about the effectiveness of Diverse Boards and how it has positive profitable results for companies based on some “Not So White Paper” researched and written by some podunk college and ELF Beauty Supplies. It’s annoying as all heck…

    https://www.elfbeauty.com/changing-the-board-game/not-so-white-paper

    The Brad

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      Leading the resistance.

      I have no issue if companies decide for themselves that is the way they want to go. I object to them being pressured to do so by anyone but their customers and stockholders.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        I don't know if it's that paper, but I've heard a debunking of the "statistical proof" that DEI programs work. The proof involves comparing companies with DEI offices to those without, and finding that those with are more profitable. No attempts were made to control the comparisons. The confounding factor would be that companies that can afford DEI offices, will be the profitable ones.

        Statistics are never misused more than by social science culture warriors.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Not even weak evidence. Without making a defensible argument HOW diversity drives profits the studies are meaningless. I doubt it is possible to legitimately defend that hypothesis.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            What podcasts do you listen to? I’ve not heard it but I generally skip the commercials.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Literally… Every frigging podcast that I listen to keeps having this commercial about the effectiveness of Diverse Boards and how it has positive profitable results for companies based on some “Not So White Paper” researched and written by some podunk college and ELF Beauty Supplies. It’s annoying as all heck…

              https://www.elfbeauty.com/changing-the-board-game/not-so-white-paper

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              @LuFins-Dad said in DEI goes commercial?:

              Diverse Boards and how it has positive profitable results for companies based on some “Not So White Paper”

              DEI people really hate white people.

              It is ugly.

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                You can dig into this stuff and consider "the rooms where it happens", as I've heard Ezra Klein do, and as anybody of moderate connection to reality just knows intuitively. When the boots meet the ground in any practical importance of "diversity" in an organization, it is either meaningless, because you're discussing something of some provable truth or falsehood, and you can test ideas against reality, or... and this is where the Democrats and other woke culture systematically go off the rails, you'll have a "representative" in the room of some advantaged identity, and the white people in the room defer to them as they pontificate about whatever lived experience conclusions they'd like you to believe. But, spoiler alert, the minorities that make it to those rooms are not representative, they are only playing a part, and, another spoiler, the politics they espouse, born of their "lived experience", are actually identical to what the educated white females want them to say. It's a real coincidence.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  What podcasts do you listen to? I’ve not heard it but I generally skip the commercials.

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                  @jon-nyc said in DEI goes commercial?:

                  What podcasts do you listen to? I’ve not heard it but I generally skip the commercials.

                  This week it’s been a bunch of Foosball related podcasts, but I’ve heard it run on a few political podcasts, too.

                  The Brad

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