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ZOMG! Trump is Killing the U.S. Defense Industry

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/03/04/trump-zelensky-vance-ukraine-defense-arms/

    How Trump Is Killing the U.S. Defense Industry
    It turns out that abandoning allies and tossing out security guarantees is bad for business.

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      Yup, when people complain that we are "giving" Ukraine billions of dollars, it is not so simple.

      It is not as if there are pallets of money being flown to Ukraine.

      It is money going to a bullet maker in Pennsylvania and then teh bullets go to Ukraine.

      etc.

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      • MikM Away
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        The government needs to be less a driver of American commerce.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          The government needs to be less a driver of American commerce.

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          @Mik said in ZOMG! Trump is Killing the U.S. Defense Industry:

          The government needs to be less a driver of American commerce.

          Without the US government, I think many defense companies in the US would go out of business

          https://insight.factset.com/how-much-do-government-contracts-contribute-to-defense-suppliers-revenue-share

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          • MikM Away
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            Perhaps, but there's a dependency there that needs to be less.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Eisenhower was right

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Sounds great if we can actually reduce the defense budget.

                Are there any “strategic industry” concerns on this one?

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                • MikM Mik

                  The government needs to be less a driver of American commerce.

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                  @Mik said in ZOMG! Trump is Killing the U.S. Defense Industry:

                  The government needs to be less a driver of American commerce.

                  Seems like defense would be the exception. You want them selling to ISIS and the cartels?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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