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Death By Firing Squad

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    NobodySock
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    #9

    it's not that easy to aim a handgun into your chest. much easier to the side of the head or up ones mouth. If I had to choose between the three, after hearing some real horror stories on lethal injection, firing squad would be an easy pick for me. And fuggedabout electric chair. Their is no instantaneous death with that one.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

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        LuFins Dad
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        @Mik said in Death By Firing Squad:

        Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

        And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

        The Brad

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

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          jon-nyc
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          @Klaus said in Death By Firing Squad:

          Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

          A childhood friend of mine who became a cop shot himself in the chest. Presumably he did it so him mom could have an open casket funeral.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Mik said in Death By Firing Squad:

            Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

            And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

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            taiwan_girl
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

            And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

            Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

              And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

              Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

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              Jolly
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              #14

              @taiwan_girl said in Death By Firing Squad:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

              And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

              Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

              I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Death By Firing Squad:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

                And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

                I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

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                taiwan_girl
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                @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

                Hmm, Someone smarter than I could do a data analysis to show that death penalty does not result and any change in (violent?) crime rate.

                I am not against the death penalty, but to say that a reason to have it is because it prevents crime I dont believe is true. I think that the reason people want to have it is for "revenge", which I can understand.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #16

                  I think it reduces crime in those who are considering acts rather rationally, but I don't think that's the majority of heinous crimes.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Horace
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                    Lots of mentally deficient people, and lots of people with horrific childhoods, end up on death row. Since it's cheaper anyway, we should probably let them spend their lives in prison.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      The average time between sentencing and execution in 2021 was 233 months, almost 20 years. I think that alone is cruel and unusual, given the lack of anything you could call a life on death row.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Jolly
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                        I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                        Cruel is a life in prison.

                        By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                          Cruel is a life in prison.

                          By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

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                          Horace
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                          @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                          I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                          Cruel is a life in prison.

                          By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                          If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                            Cruel is a life in prison.

                            By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

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                            taiwan_girl
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                            @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                            Cruel is a life in prison.

                            ☝

                            This. Life in prison is a pretty severe sentence.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                              I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                              Cruel is a life in prison.

                              By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                              If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

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                              Jolly
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                              #22

                              @Horace said in Death By Firing Squad:

                              @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                              I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                              Cruel is a life in prison.

                              By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                              If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

                              Some do.

                              Especially at Angola, I used to talk with the cons a lot.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                When I was a Reservist there was a meathead (military police) Master Warrant Officer who would drop by our section for coffee and routine gossip with our senior NCO’s. His civi street job, if you want call it that, was a prison guard at the maximum security prison block northwest of the city. He had zero sympathy for the inmates and maintained each and every last one would sooner slit one another’s throat than give them the time of day. He also said they loved to live in their filth out of choice. He also figured the gorilla cage at the Calgary Zoo was more a 1000 times more civilized than even the medium security bloc in the same institution he worked. He loved doing Reservist work because it offered a catharsis from his day job.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  https://apnews.com/article/firing-squad-autopsy-missing-bullet-south-carolina-ffce046a03b2f636f79cff3a50f9474d

                                  A man who was put to death last month in South Carolina’s second firing squad execution was conscious and likely suffered in extreme pain for as long as a minute after the bullets, meant to quickly stop his heart, struck him lower than expected, according to a pathologist hired by his attorneys.

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                                    Horace
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                                    Seems like an awful way to go. Not as awful as the electric chair. Imagine thinking that shocking someone to death is the best answer for a "humane and painless" way to end their lives.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      Yes, and if you don’t wipe out their consciousness on the first jolt, well that’s ok because you’re going to cook them from the inside out with the next one. Jesus.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Seems to me the closest thing to humane execution, insofar as that’s not an oxymoron, is lethal injection where the first shot just puts you to sleep.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Seems to me the closest thing to humane execution, insofar as that’s not an oxymoron, is lethal injection where the first shot just puts you to sleep.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                          Seems to me the closest thing to humane execution, insofar as that’s not an oxymoron, is lethal injection where the first shot just puts you to sleep.

                                          We don't worry about whether putting dogs to sleep is hurting them, and my assumption is that it doesn't. Most of us probably care a lot more for our dogs than we do for the people being executed in prisons.

                                          I was only joking

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