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    Klaus
    wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 17:05 last edited by
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    Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

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    • K Klaus
      8 Mar 2025, 17:05

      Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

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      Jolly
      wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 17:28 last edited by
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      @Klaus said in Death By Firing Squad:

      Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

      Women often shoot themselves in the chest. Don't want to mess up their face for the casket.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
        wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 17:31 last edited by
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        It happens. The linebacker Junior Seau shot himself in the chest to save his brain for science. Then there are stories of people stabbing themselves in the heart.

        Education is extremely important.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 02:16 last edited by
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          Nitrogen. Best way.

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            NobodySock
            wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 02:46 last edited by
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            it's not that easy to aim a handgun into your chest. much easier to the side of the head or up ones mouth. If I had to choose between the three, after hearing some real horror stories on lethal injection, firing squad would be an easy pick for me. And fuggedabout electric chair. Their is no instantaneous death with that one.

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              Mik
              wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 04:37 last edited by
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              Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • M Mik
                9 Mar 2025, 04:37

                Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 04:41 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Death By Firing Squad:

                Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

                And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                The Brad

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                • K Klaus
                  8 Mar 2025, 17:05

                  Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 21:50 last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in Death By Firing Squad:

                  Well, consider this: Thousands of people commit suicide by blowing their brain out. But I've never heard of suicide by shooting in the chest. There must be a reason...

                  A childhood friend of mine who became a cop shot himself in the chest. Presumably he did it so him mom could have an open casket funeral.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    9 Mar 2025, 04:41

                    @Mik said in Death By Firing Squad:

                    Any way you cut it it's a grisly, unnatural business. We'd be best off without it.

                    And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 00:13 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

                    And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                    Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      10 Mar 2025, 00:13

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

                      And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                      Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 02:34 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Death By Firing Squad:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

                      And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                      Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

                      I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        10 Mar 2025, 02:34

                        @taiwan_girl said in Death By Firing Squad:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Death By Firing Squad:

                        And it’s cheaper to just imprison them for life without parole.

                        Agree. Death penalty is not stopping anybody from dong bad crimes.

                        I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 13:19 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                        I beg to differ. Dead people do not commit crimes of any kind.

                        Hmm, Someone smarter than I could do a data analysis to show that death penalty does not result and any change in (violent?) crime rate.

                        I am not against the death penalty, but to say that a reason to have it is because it prevents crime I dont believe is true. I think that the reason people want to have it is for "revenge", which I can understand.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 14:59 last edited by
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                          I think it reduces crime in those who are considering acts rather rationally, but I don't think that's the majority of heinous crimes.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 15:12 last edited by
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                            Lots of mentally deficient people, and lots of people with horrific childhoods, end up on death row. Since it's cheaper anyway, we should probably let them spend their lives in prison.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:09 last edited by
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                              The average time between sentencing and execution in 2021 was 233 months, almost 20 years. I think that alone is cruel and unusual, given the lack of anything you could call a life on death row.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:35 last edited by
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                                I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                Cruel is a life in prison.

                                By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  10 Mar 2025, 16:35

                                  I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                  Cruel is a life in prison.

                                  By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:41 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                  I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                  Cruel is a life in prison.

                                  By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                                  If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    10 Mar 2025, 16:35

                                    I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                    Cruel is a life in prison.

                                    By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 16:50 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                    Cruel is a life in prison.

                                    ☝

                                    This. Life in prison is a pretty severe sentence.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      10 Mar 2025, 16:41

                                      @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                      I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                      Cruel is a life in prison.

                                      By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                                      If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 19:17 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                      @Jolly said in Death By Firing Squad:

                                      I think I'm the only one here that routinely visited jails and prisons.

                                      Cruel is a life in prison.

                                      By the time you die, nobody cares or wants you. They put you in a cardboard box and bury you in the pauper's field with a number tag or in the prison graveyard.

                                      If you asked them, would they tell you they'd rather be dead?

                                      Some do.

                                      Especially at Angola, I used to talk with the cons a lot.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 10 Mar 2025, 22:18 last edited by Renauda 3 Oct 2025, 22:21
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                                        When I was a Reservist there was a meathead (military police) Master Warrant Officer who would drop by our section for coffee and routine gossip with our senior NCO’s. His civi street job, if you want call it that, was a prison guard at the maximum security prison block northwest of the city. He had zero sympathy for the inmates and maintained each and every last one would sooner slit one another’s throat than give them the time of day. He also said they loved to live in their filth out of choice. He also figured the gorilla cage at the Calgary Zoo was more a 1000 times more civilized than even the medium security bloc in the same institution he worked. He loved doing Reservist work because it offered a catharsis from his day job.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 9 May 2025, 14:25 last edited by
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                                          https://apnews.com/article/firing-squad-autopsy-missing-bullet-south-carolina-ffce046a03b2f636f79cff3a50f9474d

                                          A man who was put to death last month in South Carolina’s second firing squad execution was conscious and likely suffered in extreme pain for as long as a minute after the bullets, meant to quickly stop his heart, struck him lower than expected, according to a pathologist hired by his attorneys.

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