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Polling on respect for the people in the military

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Wow.

    Among independents it’s 65 Biden 35 Trump.

    I’ll bet a huge chunk of that comes from his open disrespect of POWs shown during his McCain comments a few years ago.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Jonathan Chait: “I wonder what political analysts from 2004 would make of this number.”

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Wow.

        Among independents it’s 65 Biden 35 Trump.

        I’ll bet a huge chunk of that comes from his open disrespect of POWs shown during his McCain comments a few years ago.

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        Among independents it’s 65 Biden 35 Trump.

        Are those absolute numbers of independents or a percentage?

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          This should scare the living shit out of democrats because it proves beyond all doubt that polls are worthless.

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          • LarryL Larry

            This should scare the living shit out of democrats because it proves beyond all doubt that polls are worthless.

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            @Larry said in Polling on respect for the people in the military:

            This should scare the living shit out of democrats because it proves beyond all doubt that polls are worthless.

            tl;dr: “I’m in the 37%.”

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Well, we all know who would post that poll here as quickly as he could without questioning its validity at all if the results would be reversed.

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                Eh, I would probably agree. I think Joe has a smart politician's respect. It's just baked in. Trump is much more nuanced. I think he is quite "patriotic" and caring about the military. He also is much more careful with them where Joe would be more likely to use them as cannon fodder to achieve political ends. For Trump it might really just come down to him viewing war as a waste of resources. But definitely Trump also thinks so highly of himself that he has little respect for the generals. I think he can simultaneously hold a position of respect for service and sacrifice while at the same time not understanding why people would serve and sacrifice.

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                • KincaidK Kincaid

                  Eh, I would probably agree. I think Joe has a smart politician's respect. It's just baked in. Trump is much more nuanced. I think he is quite "patriotic" and caring about the military. He also is much more careful with them where Joe would be more likely to use them as cannon fodder to achieve political ends. For Trump it might really just come down to him viewing war as a waste of resources. But definitely Trump also thinks so highly of himself that he has little respect for the generals. I think he can simultaneously hold a position of respect for service and sacrifice while at the same time not understanding why people would serve and sacrifice.

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                  @Kincaid said in Polling on respect for the people in the military:

                  Trump is much more nuanced

                  You used "Trump" and "nuanced" in the same sentence.

                  I don't know whether to applaud or laugh.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Complex?

                    Scattered?

                    All over the map?

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                    • KincaidK Kincaid

                      Complex?

                      Scattered?

                      All over the map?

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                      @Kincaid said in Polling on respect for the people in the military:

                      Complex?

                      Scattered?

                      All over the map?

                      LOL Kincaid! @George-K

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Kincaid said in Polling on respect for the people in the military:

                        Complex?

                        Scattered?

                        All over the map?

                        LOL Kincaid! @George-K

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                        @taiwan_girl

                        🤜 🤛

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