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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #1173

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • W Offline
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      Wim
      wrote last edited by Wim
      #1174

      Horluz strait closed again

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote last edited by
        #1175

        Whiplash.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • W Wim

          Horluz strait closed again

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/4/18/iran-closes-strait-of-hormuz-again-over-us-blockade-of-its-ports

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote last edited by
          #1176

          @Wim said:

          Horluz strait closed again

          Temporarily or permanently?

          I was only joking

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          • MikM Mik

            Whiplash.

            AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote last edited by
            #1177

            @Mik said:

            Whiplash.

            Ye of little faith, it’s just Trump thinking he’s playing 5D chess.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Wim said:

              Horluz strait closed again

              Temporarily or permanently?

              W Offline
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              Wim
              wrote last edited by
              #1178

              @Doctor-Phibes No idea. Depends on negotiations next week I guess...

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #1179

                "Hormuz is closed anyway. Also, closing Hormuz is good for us. And if they don't open Hormuz, I will end them!"

                IMG_2001.jpeg

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1180

                  No one pays much attention to these rants anymore. Much noise and fury signifying nothing.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote last edited by
                    #1181

                    What with Hegseth quoting fake biblical verses from Pulp Fiction, and Trump declaring the Strait is closed and open at the same time and always will be, it almost feels as if these guys don't know what they're talking about.

                    I was only joking

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1182

                      It is that déjà vu feeling all over again. LOL

                      I am starting to get this forum thread confused with the "sad cognitive decline of a president" forum thread.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1183

                        It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • MikM Mik

                          It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                          #1184

                          @Mik

                          The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                          The first would be that foreign policy and trade are extensions of diplomacy, of which is nothing transactional or performative.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote last edited by
                            #1185

                            Now you're talking depth. I'm not sure that's deliverable.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              Renauda
                              wrote last edited by
                              #1186

                              I don’t it expect it could be.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Mik

                                It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1187

                                @Mik said:

                                The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                Why would he do that when he's the greatest negotiator in history?

                                I was only joking

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

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                                  Tom-K
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #1188

                                  @Mik said:

                                  This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                  Sounds exactly like some other "world leader."

                                  Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1189

                                    @Mik said:

                                    It's really not that. This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness.

                                    Ok, but a lot of people seem to gloss over how much that diminishes him, the office of President, the United States, etc. and give him a pass. "Oh, that is just Trump being Trump."

                                    I remember when he said (during his first campaign I think) that he could "shoot someone in Times Square NY and none of his followers would care."

                                    When I first heard that, I was like, "No way. No way people would accept that." But now, after all that he says and does, I can see that he was telling the truth.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1190

                                      Oh, the diminishment is clearly true and that which I most dislike about him. But his political instincts are first rate. he's turned American politics on its head for 12 years now.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                        @Mik said:

                                        This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                        Sounds exactly like some other "world leader."

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1191

                                        @Tom-K said:

                                        @Mik said:

                                        This is just what he does. It is as constant as the north star, but that very consistency is its weakness. He always states the nuclear option, and everyone knows that's not what he wants to do or will do. The guy needs to learn some new tricks.

                                        Sounds exactly like some other "world leader."

                                        Name one.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Oh, the diminishment is clearly true and that which I most dislike about him. But his political instincts are first rate. he's turned American politics on its head for 12 years now.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote last edited by Axtremus
                                          #1192

                                          @Mik said:

                                          he's turned American politics on its head for 12 years now.

                                          On the net, for the better or for the worse, in your estimation?

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