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    jon-nyc
    wrote 23 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
    #479

    I will cop to that.

    But I have trouble believing that Israel would say ‘we haven’t confirmed the end of their nuclear program and are no where near the end of their ballistic missile program, but we’re good.” At the same time Iran says ‘we used to think that if we lived according to Allah’s will he would make us victorious, but we were fooling ourselves’.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      23 days ago

      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

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      Axtremus
      wrote 23 days ago last edited by
      #480

      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

      Rolled in what way(s)?

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        jon-nyc
        wrote 23 days ago last edited by
        #481

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          23 days ago

          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

          Rolled in what way(s)?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote 23 days ago last edited by
          #482

          @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

          Rolled in what way(s)?

          I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            bachophile
            wrote 23 days ago last edited by
            #483

            Well it was time to wake up anyway

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            • J jon-nyc
              23 days ago

              @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

              Rolled in what way(s)?

              I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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              Mik
              wrote 23 days ago last edited by
              #484

              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

              Rolled in what way(s)?

              I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

              Yeah, that’s a wide range of possibilities. And it could still happen.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                #485

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  bachophile
                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                  #486

                  So…another historic thread will start to wind down…

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                    Mik
                    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                    #487

                    Hopefully.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      Mik
                      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                      But I'm very, very interested in the future behavior of the mullahs. If it doesn't squelch the proxies the job is not done yet.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        AndyD
                        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                        #489

                        They'll turn inwards on their own population to prevent any progressive reform in Iran

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                          #490

                          Really good summary, though probably a little hopeful in some aspects. Still worth the read.

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            Mik
                            wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                            Yeah, it’s a bit optimistic but still a pretty clear eyed look at where things are.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                              #492

                              Oh shit, if true.

                              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                Mik
                                wrote 22 days ago last edited by Mik
                                #493

                                If you'll recall, this was exactly my objection to our involvement - possible failure to destroy Fordow.

                                Now, it is absolutely true that some powers will try very hard to portray that as true, whether it is or not. Finding the truth might be difficult, but we'll be keeping an eye on the sites.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                  In all likelihood it’s somewhere in between. What do they mean by months? 3? Or 120?

                                  The Brad

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                    6 said the report.

                                    While the question of who/what to believe is ever present, before the Defense Intelligence Agency report was leaked congressmen were already publicly complaining that the Administration canceled a planned briefing.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                                      #496

                                      I thought they were years away from a bomb, according to Tulsi?

                                      The Brad

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                        Trump has spent the last couple of hours making multiple posts how the bombs obliterated everything.... which probably means they didn't... sigh...

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote 22 days ago last edited by
                                          #498

                                          Our problem is no believable source.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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