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Thinking about flooring.

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    George K
    wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 20:18 last edited by
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    When we bought the condo, the floor in our foyer was marble.

    It's been a nightmare. Somehow, and I don't know how, it's gotten to be almost impossible to keep clean. The luster is gone, and with the building settling (11 years old now), cracks have appeared.

    This fall, I'd like to get it replaced with something else.

    We have wood floors throughout the place, but I think trying to match it would be a fool's errand (sun fading of the other stuff, etc). I'd also like to have a bit of visual contrast between the foyer and the rest of the condo.

    The area is about 140 square feet, and I have two questions.

    1. Any idea of how expensive it would be to remove the existing flooring and replace with something else?

    2. What would you recommend for durable hard-surface flooring that's not wood? Porcelain?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 20:46 last edited by
      #2

      Yeah, some kind of tile.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 20:50 last edited by
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        You could do a different shade of wood too.

        I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • J jon-nyc
          11 Apr 2020, 20:50

          You could do a different shade of wood too.

          I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

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          George K
          wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 20:53 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Thinking about flooring.:

          You could do a different shade of wood too.

          I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

          Cost of material is really irrelevant. I was just wondering how costly it would be to remove existing tile and replace with something else.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 21:05 last edited by
            #5

            Yeah, I don't remember but it not being memorable probably means it wasn't that expensive.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • G George K
              11 Apr 2020, 20:53

              @jon-nyc said in Thinking about flooring.:

              You could do a different shade of wood too.

              I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

              Cost of material is really irrelevant. I was just wondering how costly it would be to remove existing tile and replace with something else.

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              mark
              wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 21:56 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Thinking about flooring.:

              @jon-nyc said in Thinking about flooring.:

              You could do a different shade of wood too.

              I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

              Cost of material is really irrelevant. I was just wondering how costly it would be to remove existing tile and replace with something else.

              https://www.homewyse.com/services/cost_to_install_ceramic_floor_tile.html

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              • M mark
                11 Apr 2020, 21:56

                @George-K said in Thinking about flooring.:

                @jon-nyc said in Thinking about flooring.:

                You could do a different shade of wood too.

                I had a new wooden floor put in one of our rooms when we moved in, it was in conjunction with resending the whole house though. I don't remember what it cost.

                Cost of material is really irrelevant. I was just wondering how costly it would be to remove existing tile and replace with something else.

                https://www.homewyse.com/services/cost_to_install_ceramic_floor_tile.html

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                George K
                wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 21:59 last edited by
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                @mark Thank you!

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  11 Apr 2020, 21:59

                  @mark Thank you!

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                  mark
                  wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 22:06 last edited by
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                  @George-K no problem. I was going to call my buddy who is an estimator for a flooring company in Rockford, but, then I found that calculator.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:16 last edited by Mik 4 Nov 2020, 23:19
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                    George, is it a solid marble sheet? You might be able to get the marble repaired for a great deal less than replacing it. In any event, taking it out shouldn't cost a great deal. The cost will come with what you replace it with. I'd stay away from natural stone. It's porous and can have faults. Porcelain or ceramic products are not porous nor will the generally have faults in them. They have nearly the same look.

                    Some sort of herringbone pattern would be really nice. Can you post pics of the room/floor?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      11 Apr 2020, 23:16

                      George, is it a solid marble sheet? You might be able to get the marble repaired for a great deal less than replacing it. In any event, taking it out shouldn't cost a great deal. The cost will come with what you replace it with. I'd stay away from natural stone. It's porous and can have faults. Porcelain or ceramic products are not porous nor will the generally have faults in them. They have nearly the same look.

                      Some sort of herringbone pattern would be really nice. Can you post pics of the room/floor?

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                      George K
                      wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:18 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Thinking about flooring.:

                      George, is it a solid marble sheet? You might be able to get the marble repaired for a great deal less than replacing it.

                      Nope. It's 12 X 12 tiles. I've been really, really unhappy with it.

                      Does anyone know anything about granite flooring?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:23 last edited by
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                        Really? and it cracked? Wow.

                        I have 12" granite tiles on my kitchen counter. They are harder than marble, but as I said, I don't care for natural stone for floors and walls. Along with the aforementioned problems they also stain.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          11 Apr 2020, 23:23

                          Really? and it cracked? Wow.

                          I have 12" granite tiles on my kitchen counter. They are harder than marble, but as I said, I don't care for natural stone for floors and walls. Along with the aforementioned problems they also stain.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:24 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Thinking about flooring.:

                          Really? and it cracked? Wow.

                          I have 12" granite tiles on my kitchen counter. They are harder than marble, but as I said, I don't care for natural stone for floors and walls. Along with the aforementioned problems they also stain.

                          The Management thinks we should go with wood.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:35 last edited by Mik 4 Nov 2020, 23:36
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                            Can you match it? In your case a site finished hardwood would be difficult. You could get away with doing a different pattern in the wood.

                            If it is cracking a 12" tile I seriously doubt that is settling. Probably more like underlayment flexing or gaps in the mastic they used that is not supporting the tile.

                            If you took the tile up and put in 3/8" cement board under the new tile it would adhere better and be a bit stiffer. I'd do a smaller size tile (see herringbone) in a pattern that will not flex as much.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              A Former User
                              wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:45 last edited by A Former User 4 Dec 2020, 00:03
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                                Mik
                                wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 00:16 last edited by
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                                A high quality vinyl would be a good option.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  12 Apr 2020, 00:16

                                  A high quality vinyl would be a good option.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 00:21 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in Thinking about flooring.:

                                  A high quality vinyl would be a good option.

                                  Yeah, but it's ... plastic.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 00:44 last edited by
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                                    That’s why I didnt mention it earlier.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 01:25 last edited by Jolly 4 Dec 2020, 01:26
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                                      Tell management to kiss your ass.

                                      Premium vinyl. Period.

                                      Mine is NAFCO. I'm sure other brands are also good. No muss, no fuss. You'll be long gone before it wears out. The wood-look planks are ok, but the tiles are really good...Invisible grout lines, etc.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 01:40 last edited by
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                                        We've been happy with the "luxury vinyl" we put in a few years ago.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          12 Apr 2020, 01:25

                                          Tell management to kiss your ass.

                                          Premium vinyl. Period.

                                          Mine is NAFCO. I'm sure other brands are also good. No muss, no fuss. You'll be long gone before it wears out. The wood-look planks are ok, but the tiles are really good...Invisible grout lines, etc.

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                                          brenda
                                          wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 03:25 last edited by brenda 4 Dec 2020, 03:26
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                                          @George-K The management being Mrs. K? Yeah, if I were you I would pass on Jolly's advice on dealing with management.

                                          Really, I think it would be alright to have the wood. Matching can be done. We matched the color of maple flooring for our new kitchen with salvaged maple flooring from a community center in northern Minnesoooota.

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