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    Jolly
    wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 14:55 last edited by
    #11

    Make up your mind. First you denigrate a statement because it negates a bargaining position, then you decry not taking a bargaining point off the table.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Renauda
      wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 14:59 last edited by Renauda
      #12

      Are you talking to me? i suspect not but if you are, you are wrong.

      Elbows up!

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      • J Jolly
        14 Feb 2025, 14:55

        Make up your mind. First you denigrate a statement because it negates a bargaining position, then you decry not taking a bargaining point off the table.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 15:27 last edited by
        #13

        @Jolly said in Reality Time:

        Make up your mind. First you denigrate a statement because it negates a bargaining position, then you decry not taking a bargaining point off the table.

        I didn't decry it, indeed I welcome it. I simply pointed out that similar sentiments were deemed WWIII triggers yesterday.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 17:27 last edited by
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          How to make friends and influence people.

          From the Munich Security Conference

          "The new American administration has a very different world view to ours, one that has no regard for established rules, partnership and grown trust,” German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier said at the Munich Security Conference on Friday, prior to Vance's comments.

          "We have to accept that and we can deal with it. But I am convinced that it is not in the interests of the international community for this world view to become the dominant paradigm,” Steinmeier, whose post is largely ceremonial, said, according to Reuters.

          and

          Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius condemned the Trump administration's decision to take "two important negotiating issues off the table" as a "careless" mistake.

          "In my view, it would have been much better to talk about Ukraine’s possible NATO membership and possible territorial changes at the negotiating table first and then with Ukraine present and not with them already having Putin’s price hanging over them," he said.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 17:32 last edited by
            #15

            It's sad when 'amateur hour' is the most charitable interpretation one can come up with.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Renauda
              wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 17:38 last edited by
              #16

              Not quite Kafkaesque but heading that direction.

              Elbows up!

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                14 Feb 2025, 17:32

                It's sad when 'amateur hour' is the most charitable interpretation one can come up with.

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                Horace
                wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 17:47 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Reality Time:

                It's sad when 'amateur hour' is the most charitable interpretation one can come up with.

                You can go with "Russian operative", if it feels more truthy to you.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  14 Feb 2025, 17:47

                  @jon-nyc said in Reality Time:

                  It's sad when 'amateur hour' is the most charitable interpretation one can come up with.

                  You can go with "Russian operative", if it feels more truthy to you.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 17:55 last edited by Renauda
                  #18

                  @Horace

                  The “Russian operative” (or asset) to which you refer is currently occupied learning all the details of the US intelligence networks and Crown Jewels sources for her handlers in the Lubyanka.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    14 Feb 2025, 17:55

                    @Horace

                    The “Russian operative” (or asset) to which you refer is currently occupied learning all the details of the US intelligence networks and Crown Jewels sources for her handlers in the Lubyanka.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 18:03 last edited by
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                    @Renauda Not even the oppositional senators were willing to go that far in the confirmation hearings. The rhetoric about how she's compromised is even too fringe for that venue.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 14 Feb 2025, 18:44 last edited by Renauda
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                      @Horace

                      We’ll see. I can guarantee you that with her in that role, 4 of the 5E are going to be very careful about sharing their respective nation’s intelligence with at least one of their number.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        14 Feb 2025, 12:53

                        Even Republicans are calling it amateur hour.

                        But what do you expect when you hire a SecDef who’s only negotiating experience is how much time he gets with the hair stylist before cameras roll.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Reality Time:

                        But what do you expect when you hire a SecDef who’s only negotiating experience is how much time he gets with the hair stylist before cameras roll.

                        Moving back to his comfort zone.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                          Presumably he wears all that product to ensure that he looks really masculine.

                          I was only joking

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                            Renauda
                            wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                            I heard that there’s a rumour going around that Hegseth may resign after learning there are Trump tariffs on make up and other grooming products.

                            Elbows up!

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