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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:12 last edited by
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    I think we’ll need it in the coming weeks.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:13 last edited by
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      I think Canadian oil is about a quarter of our total imported oil

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:19 last edited by
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        Is there any evidence that a significant amount of Fentanyl enters the US via Canada?

        The Brad

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:30 last edited by
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          Never really heard anyone talking about it.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:39 last edited by
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            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Horace
              wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 21:51 last edited by
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              Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:33 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2025, 22:45
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                Trump just levied a punitive tax on US exporters into Canada. I really don’t care much about those exporting into Mexico.

                I suggest all of you fill your gas tanks and for those of you like Phibes, who live in the northeast and New England, fill your tanks and conserve your electricity. Ontario and Quebec are prepared to open the breaker into the US.

                More to follow…

                Elbows up!

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                  1 Feb 2025, 21:51

                  Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:36 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.

                  It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                  I was only joking

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:40 last edited by
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                    He sure has set the pattern right out of the gate. Picking fights with democratic allies while signaling weakness to adversaries.

                    China offers Latin America infrastructure investment, we offer threats. What’s the worst that could happen?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:41 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2025, 22:46
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                      It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                      We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

                      Trump is off his fucking cracker.

                      Elbows up!

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:47 last edited by
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                        I think this does answer the question about whether Trump believes his own shit about tariffs.

                        As Scott Lincicome from Cato Institute says, if Canadian producers will pay the tariffs, why reduce the ones on energy to 10%?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 22:57 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2025, 22:58
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                          @jon-nyc

                          Canadian producers do not pay the tariffs. American importers pay the tariff. Trump can levy the tariff only when and if the product crosses the border.

                          If we should decide to levy an export tax or even turn off the taps, that’s whole other scenario. We can do either or both.

                          Nothing is off the table.

                          Elbows up!

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:00 last edited by
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                            Dude I know that. It was just never entirely clear if Trump thought otherwise or just pretended to.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:04 last edited by
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                              I think it’s pretty obvious. Canada is by freaking far the #1 exporter of oil to the US. Trump wants energy independence… in a 5D chess world, inflating Canada’s energy costs to the US consumer gives him more cover for drill baby, drill.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:07 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Jan 2025, 23:07
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                                Still, for a guy who achieved a narrow victory on what was largely a referendum on inflation he’s wasting no time pulling on the closest thing a president has to an crank-up-prices lever.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:08 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 14:16
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                                  @jon-nyc

                                  I have said in past here, that Trump does not understand international trade. I still maintain that and his actions only confirm that assessment. Trump seems to think US protectionism during the late 19th early 20th centurues was what made great and it can be replicated now in the 21st. He is deluded, the world has moved on from the age of steam. Yes he believes his own shit just as Putin believes his own shit. Both are demagogue street thugs cut from the same whole cloth.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    1 Feb 2025, 23:04

                                    I think it’s pretty obvious. Canada is by freaking far the #1 exporter of oil to the US. Trump wants energy independence… in a 5D chess world, inflating Canada’s energy costs to the US consumer gives him more cover for drill baby, drill.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:09 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    in a 5D chess world

                                    So is Trump this guy

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                                    or this guy?

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                                    I was only joking

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                                      1 Feb 2025, 22:41

                                      It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                                      We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

                                      Trump is off his fucking cracker.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:17 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                                      We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        1 Feb 2025, 23:17

                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                                        We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:21 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

                                        We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

                                        ff88e0b2-0c22-47f9-b6b8-d7505909e228-image.png

                                        I was only joking

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 23:24 last edited by
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                                          Leader of the Conservative Party, running for PM

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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