Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread
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Trump just levied a punitive tax on US exporters into Canada. I really don’t care much about those exporting into Mexico.
I suggest all of you fill your gas tanks and for those of you like Phibes, who live in the northeast and New England, fill your tanks and conserve your electricity. Ontario and Quebec are prepared to open the breaker into the US.
More to follow…
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@Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.
It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.
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‘a-blowe yow and be-kele yow wel, and comyth up all with your ease’ ~ attributed to Henry V
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Canadian producers do not pay the tariffs. American importers pay the tariff. Trump can levy the tariff only when and if the product crosses the border.
If we should decide to levy an export tax or even turn off the taps, that’s whole other scenario. We can do either or both.
Nothing is off the table.
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I think it’s pretty obvious. Canada is by freaking far the #1 exporter of oil to the US. Trump wants energy independence… in a 5D chess world, inflating Canada’s energy costs to the US consumer gives him more cover for drill baby, drill.
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I have said in past here, that Trump does not understand international trade. I still maintain that and his actions only confirm that assessment. Trump seems to think US protectionism during the late 19th early 20th centurues was what made great and it can be replicated now in the 21st. He is deluded, the world has moved on from the age of steam. Yes he believes his own shit just as Putin believes his own shit. Both are demagogue street thugs cut from the same whole cloth.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
in a 5D chess world
So is Trump this guy
or this guy?
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“Don’t make me repeat myself”
- history
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.
We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.
We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.
Lol
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Is there any evidence that a significant amount of Fentanyl enters the US via Canada?
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Leader of the Conservative Party, running for PM
At last Monsieur PeePee took a stand and articulated a coherent policy stance on this and a few other outstanding domestic irritants.
PeePee, it seems after all, is no friend of the Trump’s hegemonic agenda of lies.
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Lumber.
Canadian lumber just killed one of the largest sawmills in Northern Florida.
Autos.
How many vehicles do we still import from Canada? I don't know.
I agree that oil makes up most if the deficit, but the deficit is higher than it's been in awhile. I suspect this latest tariff is just the opening shot in further trade negotiations.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Lumber.
Canadian lumber just killed one of the largest sawmills in Northern Florida.
Bullshit.
Autos.
How many vehicles do we still import from Canada? I don't know.
Do some fucking research, Beauregard.
Here’s a start for you.
The auto industry in North America is an integrated and complex supply chain arrangement that the industry itself has developed and refined over fifty years or more. It’s not a matter of which vehicle is built in Detroit or Oshawa.
You’re welcome.
I agree that oil makes up most if the deficit, but the deficit is higher than it's been in awhile. I suspect this latest tariff is just the opening shot in further trade
Because American demand for heavy oil has increased and continues to increase. Many of your under capacity refineries run on heavy oil, always have. They cannot run medium or light. US used to import it from Venezuela or bunker sea from the open markets- usually Iran. Those sources are now closed to the US market.
Also your MAGAt Moses Duce is not interested in negotiation or bilateral cooperation. Never has been interested. He wants total control and overlordship. It is entirely his choice to down this road and tear up the legacy of Ronald Reagan and a trade treaty what he himself called in 2018, the free trade agreement of the century.
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Actually Trump’s envoy just made some deal with Venezuela. We got some hostages back and they’re going to take their immigrants back. It’s unclear what they got in return but their government hailed the opportunity for ‘a new relationship’ with the US. Speculation is there’s oil involved.
See my post above about picking fights with friendly democracies and signaling weakness to our enemies.
