Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread

[jon-nyc]

I think Canadian oil is about a quarter of our total imported oil

[LuFins Dad]

Is there any evidence that a significant amount of Fentanyl enters the US via Canada?

[jon-nyc]

Never really heard anyone talking about it.

[jon-nyc]

[Horace]

Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.

[Renauda]

Trump just levied a punitive tax on US exporters into Canada. I really don’t care much about those exporting into Mexico.

I suggest all of you fill your gas tanks and for those of you like Phibes, who live in the northeast and New England, fill your tanks and conserve your electricity. Ontario and Quebec are prepared to open the breaker into the US.

More to follow…

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

Looks like Canada can do something performative, give Trump a PR win, and the tariffs will be revoked. I hope that is the outcome of this.

It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

[jon-nyc]

He sure has set the pattern right out of the gate. Picking fights with democratic allies while signaling weakness to adversaries.

China offers Latin America infrastructure investment, we offer threats. What’s the worst that could happen?

[Renauda]

It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

Trump is off his fucking cracker.

[jon-nyc]

I think this does answer the question about whether Trump believes his own shit about tariffs.

As Scott Lincicome from Cato Institute says, if Canadian producers will pay the tariffs, why reduce the ones on energy to 10%?

[Renauda]

@jon-nyc

Canadian producers do not pay the tariffs. American importers pay the tariff. Trump can levy the tariff only when and if the product crosses the border.

If we should decide to levy an export tax or even turn off the taps, that’s whole other scenario. We can do either or both.

Nothing is off the table.

[jon-nyc]

Dude I know that. It was just never entirely clear if Trump thought otherwise or just pretended to.

[LuFins Dad]

I think it’s pretty obvious. Canada is by freaking far the #1 exporter of oil to the US. Trump wants energy independence… in a 5D chess world, inflating Canada’s energy costs to the US consumer gives him more cover for drill baby, drill.

[jon-nyc]

Still, for a guy who achieved a narrow victory on what was largely a referendum on inflation he’s wasting no time pulling on the closest thing a president has to an crank-up-prices lever.

[Renauda]

@jon-nyc

I have said in past here, that Trump does not understand international trade. I still maintain that and his actions only confirm that assessment. Trump seems to think US protectionism during the late 19th early 20th centurues was what made great and it can be replicated now in the 21st. He is deluded, the world has moved on from the age of steam. Yes he believes his own shit just as Putin believes his own shit. Both are demagogue street thugs cut from the same whole cloth.

[Doctor Phibes]

@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

in a 5D chess world

So is Trump this guy

or this guy?

[jon-nyc]

@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

[jon-nyc]

Leader of the Conservative Party, running for PM

[jon-nyc]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

It really shouldn't be up to Canada to repair this clusterfuck.

We have already given Trump all the appeasement he has asked for and demanded. And then some.

Lol