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  • kluursK Offline
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    Link to video

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Lutnick and Navarro are probably among the few people in the country to be disappointed by this pause. Trump supporters who were excited about tariffs, are now probably just excited by this brilliant negotiating tactic of pausing the tariffs.

      Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

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      Renauda
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      #608

      @Horace

      Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

      Lutnick does look a lot like Lenin.

      Coincidence?

      Elbows up!

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        Auto market research firm Telemetry estimates 1.8MM fewer new cars will be sold this year. Last year total sales were ~15MM, so this is over 10% drop.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Obviously vehicle dependent, but here are average new taxes by brand.

          IMG_4072.jpeg

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Do we have any Tata cars in the US? And who’s Geely?

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • kluursK Offline
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              Next time, everyone pay attention...

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                Trump undoes Liberation Day, and the market rejoices.

                The market hates Liberation.

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                  Suppose you're a businessman, what would you do with this "90 day pause"? Import more before high tariffs kick in again?

                  As a consumer, what would you do? Accelerate buying imported stuff that you planned to purchase anyway before the tariffs situation changes again?

                  Anybody thinks "let's move more manufacturing back onshore before the high tariffs kick in again"?

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                    As posted by Trump on Truth Social on April 4, 2025:

                    TO THE MANY INVESTORS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INVESTING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE, ...

                    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114279756371714617

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                      And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                        And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

                        I was thinking along these lines. Glad someone quantified it. The escalating trade war with china, remains a big deal.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #618

                          Some more precision. Doesn’t look like it’s higher overall but consumer goods are.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Yes, but China’s a hit more people are willing to take…

                            The Brad

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                              I think the boat fees are actually as big as the tariffs…

                              The Brad

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                                How are the farmers
                                of America taking this?
                                Are they more likely to plant crops or sell their machines?

                                E.g. China has been stockpiling soybeans, and Brazil is an alternative supplier. Chinese import tax on US soybeans is now 104% ?

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                                  We have 9T of debt that matures in 2025, all of which we need to reissue and of course Trump will issue several trillion more.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    Maybe this time Trump will say "China will pay for it."

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Good lord. The comments…

                                        The Brad

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                                          I'm unsurprised that economic destruction is no big deal to people with nothing economic to lose.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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