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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #605

    The presidential election version of that is "I'd vote for a can of soup over Trump". More of a pithy comment than a thought experiment, though bravo to the writer for the carefully crafted description of a bag of bricks.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #606

      Lutnick and Navarro are probably among the few people in the country to be disappointed by this pause. Trump supporters who were excited about tariffs, are now probably just excited by this brilliant negotiating tactic of pausing the tariffs.

      Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Link to video

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Lutnick and Navarro are probably among the few people in the country to be disappointed by this pause. Trump supporters who were excited about tariffs, are now probably just excited by this brilliant negotiating tactic of pausing the tariffs.

          Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

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          Renauda
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          #608

          @Horace

          Navarro and Lutnick are joined in their disappointment, by protectionist populist far-left types, I guess.

          Lutnick does look a lot like Lenin.

          Coincidence?

          Elbows up!

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #609

            Auto market research firm Telemetry estimates 1.8MM fewer new cars will be sold this year. Last year total sales were ~15MM, so this is over 10% drop.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              #610

              Obviously vehicle dependent, but here are average new taxes by brand.

              IMG_4072.jpeg

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
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                #611

                Do we have any Tata cars in the US? And who’s Geely?

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  #612

                  Next time, everyone pay attention...

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    #613

                    Trump undoes Liberation Day, and the market rejoices.

                    The market hates Liberation.

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Axtremus
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                      #614

                      Suppose you're a businessman, what would you do with this "90 day pause"? Import more before high tariffs kick in again?

                      As a consumer, what would you do? Accelerate buying imported stuff that you planned to purchase anyway before the tariffs situation changes again?

                      Anybody thinks "let's move more manufacturing back onshore before the high tariffs kick in again"?

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
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                        #615

                        As posted by Trump on Truth Social on April 4, 2025:

                        TO THE MANY INVESTORS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INVESTING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE, ...

                        https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114279756371714617

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #616

                          And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #617

                            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                            And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

                            I was thinking along these lines. Glad someone quantified it. The escalating trade war with china, remains a big deal.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #618

                              Some more precision. Doesn’t look like it’s higher overall but consumer goods are.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #619

                                Yes, but China’s a hit more people are willing to take…

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  I think the boat fees are actually as big as the tariffs…

                                  The Brad

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                                    AndyD
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                                    #621

                                    How are the farmers
                                    of America taking this?
                                    Are they more likely to plant crops or sell their machines?

                                    E.g. China has been stockpiling soybeans, and Brazil is an alternative supplier. Chinese import tax on US soybeans is now 104% ?

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #622

                                      We have 9T of debt that matures in 2025, all of which we need to reissue and of course Trump will issue several trillion more.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • AxtremusA Away
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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #623

                                        Maybe this time Trump will say "China will pay for it."

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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