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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #150

    He called Jan 6 the worst day in American history since 9/11. He said he would never vote Trump because of his character, since his own morals are deeply rooted in his religion.

    Those are just a couple of top of mind examples. He realized that he can’t be anti-Trump and also a popular right wing commentator.

    He used to disagree with the vast majority of things Trump. Now he agrees with the vast majority (or at least goes out of it way to give the most charitable explanation).

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      It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

      I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

      Education is extremely important.

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        It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

        I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

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        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

        It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

        I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

        I think you’re too influenced by Walsh and Candace Owen’s. 85% of Shapiro’s stuff for the masses is the typical red meat, but about 15% is far more intellectual and you see a reasoning/philosophical point to some of the governance points Ben is making. Klavan is hilarious in his openings, but occasionally delves kind of deep into his background as an author and an artist. Knowles will dig pretty deep into classical western theology and philosophy to make his points.

        Yes, 80% is Rush redux, but the 20% makes it worthwhile.

        The Brad

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          Horace
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          #153

          This is all fair enough from Shapiro:

          Link to video

          Education is extremely important.

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            @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

            It surprises me Shapiro was ever as strident about Jan 6 or Trump as the two examples you point out.

            I don't listen to much DW content because it's not substantive enough, just relentless culture war dunks that might be funny, but aren't so meaningful.

            I think you’re too influenced by Walsh and Candace Owen’s. 85% of Shapiro’s stuff for the masses is the typical red meat, but about 15% is far more intellectual and you see a reasoning/philosophical point to some of the governance points Ben is making. Klavan is hilarious in his openings, but occasionally delves kind of deep into his background as an author and an artist. Knowles will dig pretty deep into classical western theology and philosophy to make his points.

            Yes, 80% is Rush redux, but the 20% makes it worthwhile.

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            Horace
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

            I think you’re too influenced by Walsh

            Probably. The algo decided I like Walsh at some point and I get fed his stuff every day. Well, I do like him, but I don't need the 1000th serving of culture war dunks.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Only non-witches get due process.

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                #156

                I predict some stocks will go up and down.

                Just 1 man's opinion.

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                  I predict some stocks will go up and down.

                  Just 1 man's opinion.

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  @Copper You are a smart man!!!!

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                    Horace
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                    #158

                    Stock market? More like drop market.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      xenon
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                      #159

                      Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

                      He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

                      And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

                      Link to video

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                        Speaking of audience capture - here’s VDH’s take on the tariff situation with Canada.

                        He sounds reasonable too, which is impressive in its own right. But pretty much frames it that Canada is in the wrong and Trump is completely right.

                        And he had a video on tariffs early feb too, where his point was that Trump doesn’t actually put on tariffs, just uses them as a diplomatic cudgel (eg prisoner deportation). But he didn’t address that here.

                        Link to video

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                        Renauda
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                        #160

                        @xenon

                        I watched it yesterday. He has some misconceptions about Canada. Particularly with regard to how he equates the supply management system here as a government subsidy as in the US and fails to acknowledge that US has been given a quota under CUSMA which it can export dairy products to Canada tariff free. The US. Is therefore treated like any dairy producer in Canada - it is given a percentage quota. I believe jon-nyc posted something about how that worked either in this thread or the Canada Tariff thread yesterday as well. I referenced the dairy supply management system as well in answer to a question TG had the other day.

                        There was also a statement he made about oil and gas exports that was inaccurate

                        Overall I rate it a C. He should do his homework.

                        Elbows up!

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                          xenon
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                          He’s a smart guy. I think he knows better, but doesn’t want to lose his audience over it.

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                            Renauda
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                            Still no excuse for sloppy thinking on his part.

                            Elbows up!

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                              #163

                              Seeing a lot of this type of thing from business and finance types that voted Trump for the first time in 2024. They voted for him over wokeness, immigration, and Israel thinking the tariff stuff was mostly bluster.

                              Asness used to run the quantitative finance desk at Goldman before going in to start AQR Capital Management. He has advanced degrees in both CS and quantitative finance. Smart guy.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                It's never been clear to me how anti-competitive manufacturing jobs are supposed to make america great again.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  xenon
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                                  #165

                                  Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                                    Maybe, just maybe…. Trump’s an idiot. It’s worth considering.

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                                    Horace
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                                    @xenon If he's obstinate enough about some sort of religious attachment to tariffs, that'll do till the real idiocy gets here.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      xenon
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                                      I’m not saying it’s not a different flavor of incompetence.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Fifth fasted correction since 1950.

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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          Stock market? More like drop market.

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                                          @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Stock market? More like drop market.

                                          Not any more, today it is going up like a rocket!

                                          Let's all celebrate!

                                          Thanks to Mr. Trump!

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