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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://money.com/states-cutting-income-taxes-2025/quote

    OTOH, Louisiana has a very high sales tax...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Oddly, despite the url, the link goes to an article about Joan Rivers.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Oddly, despite the url, the link goes to an article about Joan Rivers.

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        @jon-nyc said in Nine States:

        Oddly, despite the url, the link goes to an article about Joan Rivers.

        Which is really odd. I tried it, and you're right. But I still had a window open under that URL with the correct article. Hmmm...

        Anyway, the article:

        These 9 States Are Cutting Income Taxes in 2025

        Nothing is certain but death and taxes, as the saying goes, but some Americans will be paying less taxes in 2025. Residents of nine states will see their state income taxes go down in this year, according to a roundup from the Tax Foundation, a tax policy research and analysis nonprofit.

        The organization notes that two of those states — Iowa and Louisiana — not only lowered the top marginal tax rate, but shifted from a bracket to a flat-tax system. In addition, South Carolina — although not one of the nine states with a new tax cut — made a temporary income tax cut permanent, and is undertaking an incremental process to lower its top marginal rate further.

        The Tax Foundation says these are just a few of the major state tax code changes coming in 2025. In total, 39 states are changing some part of their tax codes this year, including the provisions to lower individual tax rates in nine states. The biggest question is what will happen to federal income taxes after this year. While federal income taxes will hold steady for now, the individual tax cut changes implemented as part of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act are set to sunset at the end of this year unless Congress acts.

        Here are the nine states cutting income taxes in 2025:

        Indiana

        Indiana lowered its 3.05% flat tax to 3%.

        Iowa

        Iowa shifted from a bracket-based tax system with a top marginal rate of 5.7% to a flat 3.8% tax rate. Who does a flat tax rate help? It depends who you ask. The Tax Foundation argues that flat state income tax structures are simpler and have advantages over systems with graduated rates, which raise the percentage of income tax owed on higher earners. Some flat tax opponents, though, argue that lower-income families don't benefit from flat-rate taxes, in part because state may raise other taxes, like the sales tax, to offset a drop in income-tax revenue.

        Louisiana

        Louisiana is also replacing brackets that top out at 4.25% with a 3% flat tax.

        Mississippi

        Mississippi is lowering its flat income tax to from 4.7% to 4.4%.

        Missouri

        Missouri lowered its top marginal income tax rate from 4.8% to 4.7%.

        Nebraska

        Nebraska dropped its top marginal tax rate from 5.84% to 5.2%.

        New Mexico

        New Mexico actually added a bracket to its income-tax system, bringing the number of marginal brackets from five to six. The highest rate still tops out at 5.9%, but the income brackets were changed, with a focus on delivering lower taxes to low- and middle-income residents. According to the governor’s office, a couple with a joint income of $50,000 a year could save more than $300.

        North Carolina

        North Carolina lowered its 4.75% tax rate to 4.5%.

        West Virginia

        West Virginia reduced its top marginal bracket from 5.12% to 4.82%.

        Income taxes vary widely by state
        How much residents pay in income taxes varies dramatically from state to state. Top marginal rates range from North Dakota’s 2.5% to California’s 13.3%. There are currently nine states that levy no individual income tax: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming.

        While not paying any state income tax might sound appealing, the Tax Foundation points out that some states compensate for this by having high taxes in other areas, such as high sales tax or property tax. The Tax Foundation also takes a holistic look at states’ tax-friendliness with an analysis that incorporates these metrics.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          There's a movement in Ohio to abolish the income tax.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            The big fight that took place in the Louisiana legislature... State pensions and 401a Federal pensions are not taxed by the state. There was debate about whether to abolish this.

            It rapidly dissolved into pitchfork time.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Mik

              There's a movement in Ohio to abolish the income tax.

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              @Mik said in Nine States:

              There's a movement in Ohio to abolish replace the income tax.

              With what?

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Mik said in Nine States:

                There's a movement in Ohio to abolish replace the income tax.

                With what?

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                @jon-nyc said in Nine States:

                @Mik said in Nine States:

                There's a movement in Ohio to abolish replace the income tax.

                With what?

                I think that Jon is correct. There was a chart published a while ago here (by me I think) that showed state "expenditure" Per Capita population. And states with no income tax were NOT generally any lower than other states. So, they have to be getting the money from somewhere else.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @jon-nyc said in Nine States:

                  @Mik said in Nine States:

                  There's a movement in Ohio to abolish replace the income tax.

                  With what?

                  I think that Jon is correct. There was a chart published a while ago here (by me I think) that showed state "expenditure" Per Capita population. And states with no income tax were NOT generally any lower than other states. So, they have to be getting the money from somewhere else.

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Nine States:

                  they have to be getting the money from somewhere else.

                  Tourists are a good source, they pay and go home so you don't have to provide a lot of resources, education for example.

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                    That’s how Florida pulls it off.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @taiwan_girl said in Nine States:

                      they have to be getting the money from somewhere else.

                      Tourists are a good source, they pay and go home so you don't have to provide a lot of resources, education for example.

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                      @Copper said in Nine States:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Nine States:

                      they have to be getting the money from somewhere else.

                      Tourists are a good source, they pay and go home so you don't have to provide a lot of resources, education for example.

                      Good point. It would be interesting to see how that works into those states, etc.

                      (on a side note, I remember reading an article once about a big retirement community that was built somewhere in Illinois. The town at first thought it would be a good idea - lots of new homeowners (and new property tax), but very few kids. Big win for the school. Then they found out that any school type of issue on the ballot was usually voted down, so the schools actually got worse. LOL)

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