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Elon's Coming

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    When Canada cut the penny, the rounding system cost Canadian consumers around $3.5 Million Dollars per year on groceries.

    And that rounding up or down will also have an effect on philanthropy as well as some of the 529 savings plans.

    It costs the same money to print a $10,000 bill as it does to print a $1 bill. So why don’t we stop printing the $1 and just print more $10,000 bills?

    The Brad

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      No big deal getting rid of pennies. Took them out of circulation here 15 or more years ago. They are not missed. In fact this country is practically cashless already. I keep a few $5 bills on hand for tips but that’s the extent of it.

      Elbows up!

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        Don't have a problem with it and I tend to always carry a bit of cash.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          No big deal getting rid of pennies. Took them out of circulation here 15 or more years ago. They are not missed. In fact this country is practically cashless already. I keep a few $5 bills on hand for tips but that’s the extent of it.

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          jon-nyc
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          #13

          @Renauda said in Elon's Coming:

          I keep a few $5 bills on hand for tips but that’s the extent of it.

          I need to start doing that for tips and the occasional homeless guy.

          You were warned.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            So does the rounding up/down go to the state or to the vendors? And what’s the actual cost in implementation? When combined with the overall increase in costs and the damage to savings and philanthropy, I don’t see where the juice is worth the squeeze.

            The Brad

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              Right now, Walmart gives an option to round up, as does Kroger's and Albertsons. The extra supposedly goes to charity.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Right now, Walmart gives an option to round up, as does Kroger's and Albertsons. The extra supposedly goes to charity.

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                wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
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                @Jolly said in Elon's Coming:

                Right now, Walmart gives an option to round up, as does Kroger's and Albertsons. The extra supposedly goes to charity. Lots of places give that option.

                That’s why I mentioned the negative effect to philanthropy. When the economic system insists on rounding up, that’s either going to taxes or the business. The state can’t dictate that the rounding up goes to a charity and CERTAINLY can’t dictate what charity.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  When Canada cut the penny, the rounding system cost Canadian consumers around $3.5 Million Dollars per year on groceries.

                  And that rounding up or down will also have an effect on philanthropy as well as some of the 529 savings plans.

                  It costs the same money to print a $10,000 bill as it does to print a $1 bill. So why don’t we stop printing the $1 and just print more $10,000 bills?

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Elon's Coming:

                  When Canada cut the penny, the rounding system cost Canadian consumers around $3.5 Million Dollars per year on groceries.

                  Interesting. I would have thought it would even out over time.

                  Maybe the price item at $1.03 Rounding goes to vendor favor
                  Buy two, rounding is in consumer favor
                  etc.

                  Maybe the vendors learned to price "one off" items (like a can of pop in a 7-11) to go to their favor?

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                    @LuFins-Dad It's not obvious to me how the rounding would next out. Marketer prefer $3.99 to $4. I can imagine in many cases them changing the price to $3.95.

                    But certainly it'll often go the other way too.

                    You were warned.

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                      Eh ... maybe it's just a ploy to move everything to crypto. 🤔

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Renauda said in Elon's Coming:

                        I keep a few $5 bills on hand for tips but that’s the extent of it.

                        I need to start doing that for tips and the occasional homeless guy.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Elon's Coming:

                        @Renauda said in Elon's Coming:

                        I keep a few $5 bills on hand for tips but that’s the extent of it.

                        I need to start doing that for tips and the occasional homeless guy.

                        I only give sneers to panhandlers..

                        Elbows up!

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          When Canada cut the penny, the rounding system cost Canadian consumers around $3.5 Million Dollars per year on groceries.

                          And that rounding up or down will also have an effect on philanthropy as well as some of the 529 savings plans.

                          It costs the same money to print a $10,000 bill as it does to print a $1 bill. So why don’t we stop printing the $1 and just print more $10,000 bills?

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                          @LuFins-Dad

                          When Canada cut the penny, the rounding system cost Canadian consumers around $3.5 Million Dollars per year on groceries

                          I don’t recall anyone raising that issue let alone complaining about it after the fact. People were just glad to be rid of the damn coppers.

                          @jon-nyc

                          Marketer prefer $3.99 to $4.

                          In the hi-fi store everything was priced to the dollar. The owner’s argument was that given the nature of the equipment and if the client is serious, a penny is not going to affect their decision to purchase. His motto was “Hear it. Love it. Buy it.” Despite being a frugal Scot, he was not adverse to haggling either. In fact, he encouraged it when multiple component systems were under consideration.

                          Elbows up!

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