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Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ramaswamy-won-t-serve-on-trump-s-government-efficiency-commission-as-he-mulls-run-for-ohio-governor/ar-AA1xxS57?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      What say you, @Mik?

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Offline
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        I won't vote for him. He's just an opportunist.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Horace
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          He has substantial bona fides that he believes what he claims to believe. I think he wrote three books on culture and politics before he entered the arena. I know he clowned himself during his presidential campaign, but I think he'll learn and grow from that. I'll be curious to see how he manages a gubernatorial campaign. I expect the theatrics to diminish a lot.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            He has substantial bona fides that he believes what he claims to believe. I think he wrote three books on culture and politics before he entered the arena. I know he clowned himself during his presidential campaign, but I think he'll learn and grow from that. I'll be curious to see how he manages a gubernatorial campaign. I expect the theatrics to diminish a lot.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

            He has substantial bona fides that he believes what he claims to believe.

            Believing what one claims to believe doesn't mean that the beliefs are any more valid.

            Didn't he peddle conspiracy theories about 9/11?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

              He has substantial bona fides that he believes what he claims to believe.

              Believing what one claims to believe doesn't mean that the beliefs are any more valid.

              Didn't he peddle conspiracy theories about 9/11?

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

              @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

              He has substantial bona fides that he believes what he claims to believe.

              Believing what one claims to believe doesn't mean that the beliefs are any more valid.

              That's a point I've made many times here. But true belief is dispositive of opportunism, which would be changing one's beliefs with the political winds.

              Didn't he peddle conspiracy theories about 9/11?

              I don't know.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • George KG Offline
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                My sense of Vivek swings like a pendulum do. He's smart, glib and personable. And then...his blatant opportunism gets to me. I think he was trying to leverage his (now short) term at DOGE as some "street cred" for future positions.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  I guess I can see opportunism in the way in which he conducted himself, to emulate Trumpianism, during the campaign. But I don't remember any about-face political opinions. I remember thinking he was non-serious.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    My sense is he would be focused on what will be good for Vivek rather than Ohio. It would take a lot to change that perception.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      I guess I can see opportunism in the way in which he conducted himself, to emulate Trumpianism, during the campaign. But I don't remember any about-face political opinions. I remember thinking he was non-serious.

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                      @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

                      I don't remember any about-face political opinions. I remember thinking he was non-serious.

                      We talked about this when he was a semi-serious candidate. And by "semi-serious" I mean, "Are you kidding me?"

                      But, yeah, at least he's been consistent.

                      If you watch some of the videos he's done on college campuses with Charlie Kirk, he's quite engaging.

                      But "engaging" ≠ "competent".

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

                        I don't remember any about-face political opinions. I remember thinking he was non-serious.

                        We talked about this when he was a semi-serious candidate. And by "semi-serious" I mean, "Are you kidding me?"

                        But, yeah, at least he's been consistent.

                        If you watch some of the videos he's done on college campuses with Charlie Kirk, he's quite engaging.

                        But "engaging" ≠ "competent".

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                        @George-K said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

                        @Horace said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

                        I don't remember any about-face political opinions. I remember thinking he was non-serious.

                        We talked about this when he was a semi-serious candidate. And by "semi-serious" I mean, "Are you kidding me?"

                        But, yeah, at least he's been consistent.

                        If you watch some of the videos he's done on college campuses with Charlie Kirk, he's quite engaging.

                        But "engaging" ≠ "competent".

                        He's proven to be pretty darn competent in everything else he's tried in his life. I'm comfortable that as people without political experience go, he can be trusted to be competent in the role, based on his prior history of competence in other arenas.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          I question his dedication to the job at hand versus aiming for national office. He was DOGE , not very good at that, then wanted Vance’s seat. When he didn’t get that call of a sudden he wants to be governor. I have no confidence in his dedication.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I question his dedication to the job at hand versus aiming for national office. He was DOGE , not very good at that, then wanted Vance’s seat. When he didn’t get that call of a sudden he wants to be governor. I have no confidence in his dedication.

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                            @Mik said in Ramaswamy out at DOGE, to run for Ohio governor:

                            I question his dedication to the job at hand versus aiming for national office. He was DOGE , not very good at that,

                            Really? I'm not disputing, just questioning. He was pretty quiet on social media about it. Perhaps there's stuff that we didn't see.

                            then wanted Vance’s seat.

                            Yeah. That was a rumor, but I have no reason to doubt it.

                            When he didn’t get that call of a sudden he wants to be governor. I have no confidence in his dedication.

                            Agreed. It's almost as though everything he's done is perceived as a stepping-stone to something bigger/better.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Exactly. I refuse to vote for anyone like that regardless of party.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Beware of someone who seems too slick.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  People:
                                  Trouble, oh we got trouble,
                                  Right here in River City!
                                  With a capital "T"
                                  That rhymes with "D"
                                  And that stands for Donald

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Or…

                                    We got trouble
                                    Right here in Cincinnati
                                    With a capital C and that rhymes with V and that stands for Vivek.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Vivek announced his candidacy for governor today.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        I wonder if DOGE would have run any differently if Vivek was involved?

                                        The Brad

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                                          I’ll be voting for Dave Yost. Ramaswamy’s a smart guy, but too much of a gadfly.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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