Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??

[LuFins Dad]

Now, let’s talk practical effects….

So a $200K Bosendorfer just became $220K. (Not really, since the tariffs are on wholesale, and not to give away our deep dark secrets, but wholesale is less than retail bet a significant amount). But… Will $20K make the Bosendorfer customer to go Steinway instead? I doubt it.

Those $150 Nike’s just became $165. A few Toyotas just went from$40K to $44K. I honestly don’t see much of a change in spending habits.

[jon-nyc]

So we still pay the tax but it doesn’t help the domestic companies?

I do think at the margin it makes a difference and a 10% tariff will translate to more than 10% at the register.

[Renauda]

10% tariff? If the US consumer is lucky.

Trump and “his team” are telling us 25% tariff on everything from here - including those 4.2 million bbls/day (as of 3 January 2025) of oil we ship to those heavy oil refineries on your Gulf of Mexico coast.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-imports-canada-hit-record-ahead-tariff-threat-eia-data-shows-2025-01-08/#:~:text=U.S. crude oil imports from Canada rose by 689%2C000 barrels,2010%2C the EIA data showed.

and here:

https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-insights/en/news-research/latest-news/crude-oil/011325-canada-should-get-ready-for-25-tariffs-on-oil-exports-to-us-alberta-premier#:~:text=Alberta is home to 4.2,serve as a bargaining chip.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??:

So we still pay the tax but it doesn’t help the domestic companies?

I do think at the margin it makes a difference and a 10% tariff will translate to more than 10% at the register.

It really depends on the margin of the items. Shorter margin items will likely see a +10% increase, but not by that much. Maybe 12% ppm a Samsung TV, for instance. But on a higher margin type of purchase, my guess is that it’s between 5-7% increase.

I would guess that my (or Rich’s) selling price on a Bosie 230VC including local sales tax will still be less than a 230VC sold in London with a 20% VAT.

[kluurs]

I haven’t touched a 230vc, but I did hear a nice recording. I am looking forward to trying one. Are you selling more satin or gloss finish?

[LuFins Dad]

Gloss, but I personally prefer the matte finish. Bosie’s matte is unique.

[kluurs]

I've always preferred matte. I might get a chance to try a 230VC in April.

[Jolly]

Good thing I don't have to make such a decision. I can only afford the decal and that negates all the finish anxiety stuff.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly 555

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly would you prefer the logo in brass or nickel?

[Jolly]

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??:

@Jolly would you prefer the logo in brass or nickel?

Pearl is not an option?

(@LuFins-Dad take this back to Bosie/Yamaha HQ; may turn out to be a $multimillion idea.)