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Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Now, let’s talk practical effects….

    So a $200K Bosendorfer just became $220K. (Not really, since the tariffs are on wholesale, and not to give away our deep dark secrets, but wholesale is less than retail bet a significant amount). But… Will $20K make the Bosendorfer customer to go Steinway instead? I doubt it.

    Those $150 Nike’s just became $165. A few Toyotas just went from$40K to $44K. I honestly don’t see much of a change in spending habits.

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
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      #9

      So we still pay the tax but it doesn’t help the domestic companies?

      I do think at the margin it makes a difference and a 10% tariff will translate to more than 10% at the register.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #10

        10% tariff? If the US consumer is lucky.

        Trump and “his team” are telling us 25% tariff on everything from here - including those 4.2 million bbls/day (as of 3 January 2025) of oil we ship to those heavy oil refineries on your Gulf of Mexico coast.

        https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-imports-canada-hit-record-ahead-tariff-threat-eia-data-shows-2025-01-08/#:~:text=U.S. crude oil imports from Canada rose by 689%2C000 barrels,2010%2C the EIA data showed.

        and here:

        https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-insights/en/news-research/latest-news/crude-oil/011325-canada-should-get-ready-for-25-tariffs-on-oil-exports-to-us-alberta-premier#:~:text=Alberta is home to 4.2,serve as a bargaining chip.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          So we still pay the tax but it doesn’t help the domestic companies?

          I do think at the margin it makes a difference and a 10% tariff will translate to more than 10% at the register.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          #11

          @jon-nyc said in Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??:

          So we still pay the tax but it doesn’t help the domestic companies?

          I do think at the margin it makes a difference and a 10% tariff will translate to more than 10% at the register.

          It really depends on the margin of the items. Shorter margin items will likely see a +10% increase, but not by that much. Maybe 12% ppm a Samsung TV, for instance. But on a higher margin type of purchase, my guess is that it’s between 5-7% increase.

          I would guess that my (or Rich’s) selling price on a Bosie 230VC including local sales tax will still be less than a 230VC sold in London with a 20% VAT.

          The Brad

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            I haven’t touched a 230vc, but I did hear a nice recording. I am looking forward to trying one. Are you selling more satin or gloss finish?

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #13

              Gloss, but I personally prefer the matte finish. Bosie’s matte is unique.

              The Brad

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                kluurs
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                I've always preferred matte. I might get a chance to try a 230VC in April.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Good thing I don't have to make such a decision. I can only afford the decal and that negates all the finish anxiety stuff.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Good thing I don't have to make such a decision. I can only afford the decal and that negates all the finish anxiety stuff.

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                    @Jolly 555

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      @Jolly would you prefer the logo in brass or nickel?

                      The Brad

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                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Jolly would you prefer the logo in brass or nickel?

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Should Jon and I buy Bosendorfer 230VC today??:

                          @Jolly would you prefer the logo in brass or nickel?

                          Pearl is not an option?

                          (@LuFins-Dad take this back to Bosie/Yamaha HQ; may turn out to be a $multimillion idea.)

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