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Repair or replace?

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    blondie
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @George-K .. I’m a huge fan of Panasonics. They last the longest. I like shelf units. I’ve had 2. That’s what I’m doing with this new build too. If I were in Jon’s situation, I’d just go with what he has though.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

      IMG_2390.jpeg

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #22

      @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

      In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

      IMG_2390.jpeg

      I know microwaves are not vented but they do produce heat that needs to be dispersed. I have always been led to believe that the air vents on the microwave cabinet should be offset or spaced away from any walls or frames by at least 2 or three inches to allow heat dispersion around the unit.

      To be honest I have never encountered a microwave in a drawer like you have. Only a dedicated wide open nook/shelf beneath a cupboard or in the open on top a counter or stand alone table/sideboard.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

        In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

        IMG_2390.jpeg

        I know microwaves are not vented but they do produce heat that needs to be dispersed. I have always been led to believe that the air vents on the microwave cabinet should be offset or spaced away from any walls or frames by at least 2 or three inches to allow heat dispersion around the unit.

        To be honest I have never encountered a microwave in a drawer like you have. Only a dedicated wide open nook/shelf beneath a cupboard or in the open on top a counter or stand alone table/sideboard.

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        George K
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        #23

        @Renauda said in Repair or replace?:

        To be honest I have never encountered a microwave in a drawer like you have.

        Other than saving counter space, what's the advantage of this style? I see it as cumbersome.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #24

          @George-K

          I would think so too, having to stoop down to place in or remove anything from the microwave. Counter level or just short of shoulder height would be my preference.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @George-K

            I would think so too, having to stoop down to place in or remove anything from the microwave. Counter level or just short of shoulder height would be my preference.

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            George K
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            #25

            @Renauda said in Repair or replace?:

            having to stoop down to place in or remove anything from the microwave.

            Think of it as loading a dishwasher - that needs regular cleaning.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              blondie
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              I’d rather have a below counter drawer microwave than what builders here are doing .. a below counter swing out door microwave. Still, both suck when it comes to cleaning up messes.

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              • George KG George K

                @Renauda said in Repair or replace?:

                having to stoop down to place in or remove anything from the microwave.

                Think of it as loading a dishwasher - that needs regular cleaning.

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                Renauda
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                #27

                @George-K said in Repair or replace?:

                @Renauda said in Repair or replace?:

                having to stoop down to place in or remove anything from the microwave.

                Think of it as loading a dishwasher - that needs regular cleaning.

                Even worse.

                Elbows up!

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                  blondie
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  I think builders are into aesthetics, maxing out counter space, and avoiding over the stove microwaves when they can. You can only vent so much with the over the stove microwaves with the built in hood fans. Lot of people prefer a dedicated fan over their stoves. They suck better lol

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                  • B blondie

                    Are those pop up controls?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    @blondie said in Repair or replace?:

                    Are those pop up controls?

                    Yeah you can close that and it’s flush with the door

                    You were warned.

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                    • B blondie

                      I think builders are into aesthetics, maxing out counter space, and avoiding over the stove microwaves when they can. You can only vent so much with the over the stove microwaves with the built in hood fans. Lot of people prefer a dedicated fan over their stoves. They suck better lol

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                      George K
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                      @blondie said in Repair or replace?:

                      ou can only vent so much with the over the stove microwaves with the built in hood fans.

                      Yes. The microwave vents are next to useless.

                      Lot of people prefer a dedicated fan over their stoves.

                      When we remodeled the kitchen in our house (1986) our cooktop was on an island. We didn't want an overhead vent coming down over it, so the contractor (who was great) installed a vent that would rise up behind the burners and vent down the back of the island, into a vent under the floorboards, and out into the back yard.

                      Ours only rose about 8 inches, iirc and didn't have lighting. Worked well, though.

                      Scan 8.jpeg

                      https://www.thermador.com/us/products/ventilation/downdraft

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #31

                        @George-K @Renauda

                        No stooping required. It’s a drawer. If it were a normal microwave installed under the counter that would be different.

                        I don’t mind it at all. I was worried it would cook unevenly since there’s no turntable but they seem to have figured that out. I’ve had a cheap microwave on my counter since this broke 12/24 and I want my counter space back

                        You were warned.

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                          blondie
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                          #32

                          Jon, I think what’s key for you given the tight space in that corner is the installer. He/she needs to get that thing out and a new one in without wrecking anything. If it were me, I wouldn’t be ordering online. I’d be going to whatever appliance center builders send clients to in your area, with that picture in hand, and seeking out who they recommend.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #33

                            For sure swapping it out isn’t something I would do st this point in my life.

                            You were warned.

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                              Mik
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                              #34

                              I would prefer to have a dedicated range hood fan, but space did not allow. My over range microwave has a pretty powerful fan that is vented to the outside.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

                                IMG_2390.jpeg

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #35

                                @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

                                In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

                                IMG_2390.jpeg

                                @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

                                In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

                                IMG_2390.jpeg

                                I’m much more comfortable having a device emit microwave radiation right at the height of head as opposed to emitting radiation at the height of your unit…

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

                                  In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

                                  IMG_2390.jpeg

                                  @jon-nyc said in Repair or replace?:

                                  In an island. (Peninsula, I guess)

                                  IMG_2390.jpeg

                                  I’m much more comfortable having a device emit microwave radiation right at the height of head as opposed to emitting radiation at the height of your unit…

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @LuFins-Dad aren't you done with those organs?

                                  (that's what I used to say when we used x-ray in the OR and I was offered a lead gown)

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @LuFins-Dad aren't you done with those organs?

                                    (that's what I used to say when we used x-ray in the OR and I was offered a lead gown)

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #37

                                    @George-K said in Repair or replace?:

                                    @LuFins-Dad aren't you done with those organs?

                                    (that's what I used to say when we used x-ray in the OR and I was offered a lead gown)

                                    I’ll take a brain tumor before that…

                                    The Brad

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                                      blondie
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      Hahaha .. a lead apron for @jon-nyc & his microwave .

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                                        blondie
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        Built ins may look small from the outside, but they are awkward, heavy, and always have sharp edges when you remove them. My last go at a swap out was 2016. Never again.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #40

                                          I might have done it myself 20 years ago. Not now.

                                          You were warned.

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