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The Billion Dollar Suit

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2025/01/08/why-my-face-all-over-cnn-navy-vets-emotional-trial-testimony

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Other sites I've seen say that this is a pretty tough case for CNN to defend.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        I hope he gets every dime.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          This week:

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          10 months ago:

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            Not aware of ratings?

            Bwhahahahahahahaha!

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #6

              The judge is unhappy with CNN's counsel.


              Young's lead counsel Vel Freedman informed Judge Henry on Wednesday that his client had just learned he lost his security clearance, which had been previously renewed right after the CNN report aired. CNN's legal team had earlier suggested that Young maintaining security clearance was proof that he lied about being able to work in the wake of the CNN segment.
              Freedman said Young checked his security clearance status after testifying, and discovered that he actually lost it in 2022. As a result, Freedman sought to add a witness from Helios Global, the firm that held Young's now-defunct security clearance, in order to tell jurors that the relationship "dissolved" in 2022.

              CNN lead counsel David Axelrod, who shares a name with the CNN political commentator, objected to the last-minute effort. However, Freedman insisted the "jury should not be misled" and said Bay County jurors were left with the impression that Young still holds a security clearance to this day.

              Axelrod insisted that he didn't mislead the jury, but Judge Henry blasted the "blatant misrepresentation" of CNN's legal team implying the security clearance document was an employment contract.

              Judge Henry read aloud a transcript of Axelrod's comments from last week, in which he called the lawsuit a "fraud" and insisted Young "lied" about being able to earn income in the wake of the CNN report.

              "You called him a liar multiple times there," Judge Henry said.

              Judge Henry seemed annoyed that Axelrod used the security clearance document to insist Young was a "liar," but then objected to a witness who would be able to explain that Young did not actually have the clearance. Freedman told the judge that CNN "knew" Young no longer had security clearance but didn't tell the court.

              "They knew it was not true," Freedman said. "CNN knew that relationship ended, knew Mr. Young did not know that relationship ended, had proof of it, failed to disclose it to the other side, and then put an expert on the stand to say he still has it."

              Much like last week when similar chaos erupted, Judge Henry then called for a recess because he wanted to return to his chambers and think things over. He returned and promptly scolded Axelrod.

              ...

              "Mr. Axelrod, I don't know how many times in this transcript, I didn't bring the paper back with me, how many times you called Mr. Young a liar. But yet, in his deposition, he acknowledged having his security being held by Helios Global. Which is exactly what that document is and exactly what he testified to," Judge Henry said.

              "I think an apology from you is clearly in order to Mr. Young for the number of times in front of this court, and streamed around the world, that you called Mr. Young a liar," the judge continued.

              Judge Henry reminded Axelrod that he previously said he wasn't going to decide the case based on "who can sling the most mud" or who can make the other side look worse.

              Judge Henry then ruled that the Helios Global representative was permitted to testify.

              "I'm troubled by all of this. I'm overly concerned with the level of professionalism, or lack thereof," Judge Henry said, adding that both sides were at fault.

              Judge Henry noted that Axelrod previously implied the document was a "smoking gun" in the case but contradicted himself later to suit his argument.

              "Right now, your credibility with me, Mr. Axelrod, is about none," Judge Henry said.

              Axelrod then apologized.

              "I apologize and if you feel that I misled you, that certainly wasn't my intention," Axelrod said.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
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                CNN is liable.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
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                    I find $5M to be a bit low. $1B was too high, but considering they've ruined a man's reputation and livelihood, $5m is too low...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      I find $5M to be a bit low. $1B was too high, but considering they've ruined a man's reputation and livelihood, $5m is too low...

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @Jolly said in The Billion Dollar Suit:

                      I find $5M to be a bit low. $1B was too high, but considering they've ruined a man's reputation and livelihood, $5m is too low...

                      Phase 2 of the sentencing is punitive damages. That has yet to be determined.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
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                        Apparently, the plaintiff and CNN have agreed to a settlement regarding punitive damages. This is on top of the $5 million already awarded. The amount of the punitive damages will be not disclosed. Trial is over.

                        Somebody reported that when the jury ask the court for a Calculator, the attorneys for CNN got nervous.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          I hope he gets every dime.

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                          @Jolly said in The Billion Dollar Suit:

                          I hope he gets every dime.

                          5% if he’s lucky.

                          Still, it’s a lot of money for an individual.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Whelan’s guess is 2.5%.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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