The Speaker’s Race
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 15:24 last edited by
Trump endorses. After a lot of unhinged ranting.
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 17:10 last edited by
magnificent, flawless
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 17:22 last edited by
Loquacious, bombastic
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 17:53 last edited by
Bigly, covfefe everywhere!
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 17:53 last edited by
POTD
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 19:27 last edited by
He's right, isn't he?
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 19:31 last edited by
Sounded ok to me.
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 19:34 last edited by
Somewhat understated if anything by colonial standards.
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wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 20:26 last edited by jon-nyc
@Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:
He's right, isn't he?
There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.
- 2
- 2
- Sure, by his campaign team
- Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
- 1
- 1
- 0
- No statements of fact to be evaluated
- Opinion
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- Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
- True
- No statement of fact to be evaluated
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wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 00:56 last edited by
Sometimes, i just hate the ridiculous GOP House. What the FUCK are they hoping to accomplish?
So, what happens if Johnson gets voted down Friday? He needs 218 votes for an outright majority. Republican Congressman Thomas Massie is a solid no and isn't changing his vote. Only two Republican members have to vote against Johnson for him to lose the Speaker's gavel. The timing of the vote could cause major headaches for the incoming Trump administration.
The House cannot operate without a Speaker. That vote occurs Friday, January 3. The vote to certify the 2024 presidential election is just three days later on January 6. When Republicans ousted former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, it took three weeks to get to a consensus around then Congressman Mike Johnson, who ultimately became the Speaker. Past elections have lasted for months.
But there are only two weeks between January 6 and January 20. If the House can't find a Speaker in time to get the election certified, President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance cannot take office even though President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris will leave their posts.
With a non-functioning House, Trump, Vance and the House Speaker are out of the chain-of-command, which puts the Senate pro tempore in as acting president. On January 20, 2025, that will be Republican Senator Chuck Grassley.
"Article One, Section Three of the U.S. Constitution designates the vice president of the United States serves as the presiding officer of the upper chamber of congress. However typically, the Vice President does not preside over all senate business, and a pro tempore, or placeholder, oversees the daily business of the chamber," the Northern Iowan reports. "As the president pro tempore, this position will also place the senior Iowa senator into the presidential line of succession, meaning he would become the president of the United States in the event the President, vice president and speaker of the House of Representatives could not discharge their duties. The role traditionally has been given to the senior-most member of the majority party."
So, it's all about simple math and timing. Trump took to Truth Social Monday in an effort to avoid the scenario and endorsed Johnson for Speaker -- telling Republicans not to blow it.
Time for President-Elect Trump to jawbone.
"Nice highway program your state has. It would be a shame if..."
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@jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:
If no GOP rises to the top, will a Democrat? They seem to be pretty-well
herdedunited.If so, will enough GOP vote him to be speaker?
Nah.
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wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 01:10 last edited by jon-nyc
The democrats are happy to stand back and watch as the GOP yet again shows it is incapable of governing, at least episodically.
If Johnson wants to bypass his magat fringe, he can make a deal with them but it ain’t coming for free.
No doubt the GOP would do the same if the roles were reversed.
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The democrats are happy to stand back and watch as the GOP yet again shows it is incapable of governing, at least episodically.
If Johnson wants to bypass his magat fringe, he can make a deal with them but it ain’t coming for free.
No doubt the GOP would do the same if the roles were reversed.
wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 01:11 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:
The democrats are happy to stand back and watch as the GOP yet again shows it is incapable of governing, at least episodically.
If Johnson wants to bypass his magat fringe, he can make a deal with them but it ain’t coming for free.
No doubt the GOP would do the same if the roles were reversed.
Yup.
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Sometimes, i just hate the ridiculous GOP House. What the FUCK are they hoping to accomplish?
So, what happens if Johnson gets voted down Friday? He needs 218 votes for an outright majority. Republican Congressman Thomas Massie is a solid no and isn't changing his vote. Only two Republican members have to vote against Johnson for him to lose the Speaker's gavel. The timing of the vote could cause major headaches for the incoming Trump administration.
The House cannot operate without a Speaker. That vote occurs Friday, January 3. The vote to certify the 2024 presidential election is just three days later on January 6. When Republicans ousted former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, it took three weeks to get to a consensus around then Congressman Mike Johnson, who ultimately became the Speaker. Past elections have lasted for months.
But there are only two weeks between January 6 and January 20. If the House can't find a Speaker in time to get the election certified, President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance cannot take office even though President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris will leave their posts.
With a non-functioning House, Trump, Vance and the House Speaker are out of the chain-of-command, which puts the Senate pro tempore in as acting president. On January 20, 2025, that will be Republican Senator Chuck Grassley.
"Article One, Section Three of the U.S. Constitution designates the vice president of the United States serves as the presiding officer of the upper chamber of congress. However typically, the Vice President does not preside over all senate business, and a pro tempore, or placeholder, oversees the daily business of the chamber," the Northern Iowan reports. "As the president pro tempore, this position will also place the senior Iowa senator into the presidential line of succession, meaning he would become the president of the United States in the event the President, vice president and speaker of the House of Representatives could not discharge their duties. The role traditionally has been given to the senior-most member of the majority party."
So, it's all about simple math and timing. Trump took to Truth Social Monday in an effort to avoid the scenario and endorsed Johnson for Speaker -- telling Republicans not to blow it.
Time for President-Elect Trump to jawbone.
"Nice highway program your state has. It would be a shame if..."
wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 01:14 last edited by jon-nyc@George-K said in The Speaker’s Race:
Time for President-Elect Trump to jawbone.
You would think, if it’s only one or two, he could bring hell down on them by visiting the district with Elon and crew and talking about how they’re blocking
what 49.9% of the country voted forthe entire MAGA program, and thus doing Kamala’s bidding. -
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Yes. I get the sense that Trump will be a lot less forgiving with the intricacies of government than he was in his first term. His tolerance for petty bullshit is probably a lot, a LOT, lower.
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@Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:
He's right, isn't he?
There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.
- 2
- 2
- Sure, by his campaign team
- Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
- 1
- 1
- 0
- No statements of fact to be evaluated
- Opinion
- 0
- Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
- True
- No statement of fact to be evaluated
wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 02:22 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:
@Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:
He's right, isn't he?
There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.
- 2
- 2
- Sure, by his campaign team
- Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
- 1
- 1
- 0
- No statements of fact to be evaluated
- Opinion
- 0
- Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
- True
- No statement of fact to be evaluated
Maybe, but I still thought his statement was good enough. 🥱. Trump can be overt in his lies, Biden can be covert.
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@jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:
@Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:
He's right, isn't he?
There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.
- 2
- 2
- Sure, by his campaign team
- Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
- 1
- 1
- 0
- No statements of fact to be evaluated
- Opinion
- 0
- Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
- True
- No statement of fact to be evaluated
Maybe, but I still thought his statement was good enough. 🥱. Trump can be overt in his lies, Biden can be covert.
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I went to public school
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wrote on 31 Dec 2024, 02:52 last edited by jon-nyc
So did I.
So did Amy Carter. Of all the presidents, only she and TR’s kids went to public school in Washington while their dads were in office.