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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:

    He's right, isn't he?

    There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.

    1. 2
    2. 2
    3. Sure, by his campaign team
    4. Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
    5. 1
    6. 1
    7. 0
    8. No statements of fact to be evaluated
    9. Opinion
    10. 0
    11. Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
    12. True
    13. No statement of fact to be evaluated
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:

    @Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:

    He's right, isn't he?

    There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.

    1. 2
    2. 2
    3. Sure, by his campaign team
    4. Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
    5. 1
    6. 1
    7. 0
    8. No statements of fact to be evaluated
    9. Opinion
    10. 0
    11. Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
    12. True
    13. No statement of fact to be evaluated

    Maybe, but I still thought his statement was good enough. 🥱. Trump can be overt in his lies, Biden can be covert.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @jon-nyc said in The Speaker’s Race:

      @Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:

      He's right, isn't he?

      There are 12 sentences in the tweet. Let me count the untruths.

      1. 2
      2. 2
      3. Sure, by his campaign team
      4. Unclear and don’t feel like looking into it
      5. 1
      6. 1
      7. 0
      8. No statements of fact to be evaluated
      9. Opinion
      10. 0
      11. Prediction can’t be evaluated for truth (though it’s unlikely)
      12. True
      13. No statement of fact to be evaluated

      Maybe, but I still thought his statement was good enough. 🥱. Trump can be overt in his lies, Biden can be covert.

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      George K
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      #18

      @Jolly said in The Speaker’s Race:

      Biden can be covert.

      You mispelled "pervert."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Jolly
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        #19

        I went to public school

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #20

          So did I.

          So did Amy Carter. Of all the presidents, only she and TR’s kids went to public school in Washington while their dads were in office.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            #21

            https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/house-speaker-vote-johnson-2025

            Mike Johnson was re-elected House speaker on the first ballot after some late drama, with President-elect Donald Trump forced to step in. Two Republicans changed their votes after initially opposing the incumbent.

            Three House Republicans—Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, and Keith Self of Texas—had initially denied Johnson a majority by voting for someone else. But Norman and Self switched their votes, giving the win to Johnson.

            Trump spoke by phone with Norman and Self after the initial voting--telling them to stop the nonsense and back Johnson, according to people familiar with the discussions. Johnson didn’t agree to any specific concessions, a Republican lawmaker said.

            Several hard-right House Republicans said in a letter they only voted for Johnson to make sure the chamber was ready to certify Trump as president in the coming days: “We did this despite our sincere reservations regarding the Speaker’s track record.”

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              Jolly
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              #22

              I think it might be just a wee bit difficult to buck Johnson in the first few months, as Trump is trying to pass his agenda.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                LuFins Dad
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                #23

                I think it might be a wee bit difficult for Johnson to buck Trump…

                The Brad

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                  #24

                  Like I said, Trump learned a lot in his first term and since.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    I think it might be a wee bit difficult for Johnson to buck Trump…

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #25

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Speaker’s Race:

                    I think it might be a wee bit difficult for Johnson to buck Trump…

                    Johnson’s not really the problem. It’ll be the one or two outliers.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • MikM Mik

                      Like I said, Trump learned a lot in his first term and since.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #26

                      @Mik said in The Speaker’s Race:

                      Like I said, Trump learned a lot in his first term and since.

                      I don’t know. They haven’t really displayed that yet. Trump and his buddies still talk regularly about grand changes that would require bipartisan majorities but the tactical approach seems to be corral the GOP and go it alone. That will get you a budget-like thing (CR, whatever) and even a tax cut but nothing else.

                      I don’t think Thune is planning a complete overhaul of Senate rules.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        #27

                        It's certainly hard to imagine Donald Trump bullshitting extravagantly.

                        And what was there to learn? His first Presidency was the greatest in the history of the country. His words, not mine, so it must be true.

                        I was only joking

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                          #28

                          https://apnews.com/article/house-intelligence-committee-speaker-0a28ddc03b3944b4d459f7ff5f0278bd

                          House Speaker Mike Johnson on Wednesday removed the GOP chairman of the powerful House Intelligence Committee, who was a vocal supporter of assistance for Ukraine and held other views that put him at odds with President-elect Donald Trump.

                          Johnson told reporters late Wednesday that Rep. Mike Turner, an Ohio Republican, would no longer lead the committee, which oversees the nation’s intelligence agencies and holds tremendous influence over law enforcement and foreign policy.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #29

                            Gotta purge the Reaganites.

                            The funny thing is he tells Turner there’s too many headwinds from mar a lago then smiles to the camera and says ‘it’s a House decision’ and went on about what a great job Turner did.

                            I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t remember firing anyone who was doing a great job.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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