James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024
-
I heard a second-hand story that says Mr. Reagan sent a message to Iran saying that if his hand came off that bible and the hostages where not released there would be hell to pay.
The story I heard says that he gave them the exact location and weapons to be used.
I can't say if it is true, but I like the story.
And the Iranians thought it would help to make it clear they were doing a favor for Mr. Reagan. -
@jon-nyc said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
Biggest success 50 years later I’d say are the camp David accords. And the principals involved heavily credited him personally for their success.
Agreed - though some critics wonder if it, ultimately, made a difference as far as stability in the ME goes. Not having Egypt and Israel with drawn swords is a big deal to be sure. Maybe the swords are just pointed in different directions now. The situation in Iran speaks for itself,
Biggest failure would be the coup in Iran.
His history of chatting with the Ayatollah may have had something to do with that. "You fucked up, you trusted us."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36431160
Persuaded by Carter, Iran's autocratic ruler, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, known as the Shah, had finally departed on a "vacation" abroad, leaving behind an unpopular prime minister and a military in disarray - a force of 400,000 men with heavy dependence on American arms and advice.
Khomeini feared the nervous military: its royalist top brass hated him. Even more worrying, they were having daily meetings with a US Air Force General by the name of Robert E Huyser, whom President Carter had sent on a mysterious mission to Tehran.
The ayatollah was determined to return to Iran after 15 years in exile and make the Shah's "vacation" permanent. So he made a personal appeal. .
In a first-person message, Khomeini told the White House not to panic at the prospect of losing a strategic ally of 37 years and assured them that he, too, would be a friend.
"You will see we are not in any particular animosity with the Americans," said Khomeini, pledging his Islamic Republic will be "a humanitarian one, which will benefit the cause of peace and tranquillity for all mankind".
I have reasonably full memories of the Iran debacle, and I worked with several Iranians at the time. Words fail to describe how shocked and disappointed they were.
Pardoning Nixon and the draft dodgers? A good thing, but the fact it's one of the "highlights"...
-
More on Carter's activities in the Middle East. An article from 2002.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/05/jimmy-carter.html
During the buildup to the Gulf War in 1990 and 1991, Carter unsuccessfully worked to undermine the foreign policy of America’s democratically elected president, George Bush. Carter behaved as the Imperial Ex-President, conducting a guerrilla foreign policy operation that competed with the actual president’s. What’s disturbing about this behavior is not that Carter opposed war with Iraq.Many Democrats opposed going to war, and they worked within the American system to try to prevent a war that many predicted would be bloody (which it was, for Iraq). But Carter went further than merely lobbying Congress to oppose military action or speaking out in an effort to tilt popular opinion against the coming war. He used his status as a former president to engage in foreign policy, a deliberate effort to subvert the democratic process.
In November 1990, two months after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, Carter wrote a letter to the heads of state of the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. He urged the countries to drop their support for Bush’s proposed military solution. Instead, as Douglas Brinkley outlines in The Unfinished Presidency, his glowing but not uncritical assessment of Carter’s post-presidential years, Carter asked the countries to give “unequivocal support to an Arab League effort” for peace. (As Brinkley notes, Carter’s anti-war position conflicted with the Carter Doctrine he had outlined as president: Any “attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such force will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.”) Right up to Bush’s Jan. 15 deadline for war, Carter continued his shadow foreign policy campaign. On Jan. 10, he wrote the leaders of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Syria and asked them to oppose the impending military action. “I am distressed by the inability of either the international community or the Arab world to find a diplomatic solution to the Gulf crisis,” he wrote. “I urge you to call publicly for a delay in the use of force while Arab leaders seek a peaceful solution to the crisis. You may have to forego approval from the White House, but you will find the French, Soviets, and others fully supportive. Also, most Americans will welcome such a move.” Former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft later accused Carter of violating the Logan Act, the law that prohibits American citizens from conducting unofficial foreign policy.
-
@jon-nyc said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
Heh.
Carter’s death, less than 30 days before President-elect Donald Trump’s swearing-in, means the American flag will fly half-staff on Inauguration Day, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
President Trumps classy response.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113765847370756395
The Democrats are all “giddy” about our magnificent American Flag potentially being at “half mast” during my Inauguration. They think it’s so great, and are so happy about it because, in actuality, they don’t love our Country, they only think about themselves.
-
@taiwan_girl said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
@jon-nyc said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
Heh.
Carter’s death, less than 30 days before President-elect Donald Trump’s swearing-in, means the American flag will fly half-staff on Inauguration Day, according to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
President Trumps classy response.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113765847370756395
The Democrats are all “giddy” about our magnificent American Flag potentially being at “half mast” during my Inauguration. They think it’s so great, and are so happy about it because, in actuality, they don’t love our Country, they only think about themselves.
I read it before and you have to post the rest. This is textbook magat projection. He’s only thinking about himself, he’s still in the background trying to reverse it.
Look at what they’ve done to our once GREAT America over the past four years - It’s a total mess! In any event, because of the death of President Jimmy Carter, the Flag may, for the first time ever during an Inauguration of a future President, be at half mast. Nobody wants to see this, and no American can be happy about it. Let’s see how it plays out. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Imagine if Reagan had died in early 2001 rather than mid 04. Can you imagine him complaining about the flag? No, he’d have worked something about honoring his service into his acceptance speech. Same with Bush 1, Obama, etc. basically any president we’ve had besides the emotional toddler.
-
@George-K said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft later accused Carter of violating the Logan Act, the law that prohibits American citizens from conducting unofficial foreign policy.
Guess who's been doing this recently....
-
@Wim said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
@George-K said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft later accused Carter of violating the Logan Act, the law that prohibits American citizens from conducting unofficial foreign policy.
Guess who's been doing this recently....
John Kerry?
Barack Obama?
Bill Richardson?
Dennis Rodman?
Henry Kissinger?
Al Gore?
Bill Clinton?
-
@George-K said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
@jon-nyc said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
@George-K said in James Earl Carter Jr, 1924-2024:
However, if you read some of the contemporaneous reports about his behaviors, one might question how generous are good he was during his presidency.
Now do the other guy.
I already did. I called him a wizzened senile grifting rapist child molester.
Snort
