Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024
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wrote on 18 Dec 2024, 23:15 last edited by
Trump urges US lawmakers to reject spending bill, raising shutdown odds
Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance called on lawmakers to pass a different temporary spending bill than the one unveiled on Tuesday, free from what they called "Democrat giveaways." Trump also called on lawmakers to use the bill to address the nation's debt ceiling, injecting a new element of complexity into the process.
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wrote on 18 Dec 2024, 23:37 last edited by
Heard a Congress critter discussing this with Wilcow today.
A lot of the problems in this bill stem from a small handful of Republicans who will not vote for a CR as a matter of principle. Because of that, Johnson has to go vote shopping on the Dems side of the aisle.
The Dems know they have leverage. And their votes come dear.
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Heard a Congress critter discussing this with Wilcow today.
A lot of the problems in this bill stem from a small handful of Republicans who will not vote for a CR as a matter of principle. Because of that, Johnson has to go vote shopping on the Dems side of the aisle.
The Dems know they have leverage. And their votes come dear.
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wrote on 18 Dec 2024, 23:51 last edited by
I just went through a Demo nightmare.
I'd rather have no government rather than that silliness...
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 13:42 last edited by Axtremus
Looks like the GOP will renege on the budget and shut the government down.
Will Trump still get to be President if there is no government? Does the inauguration need federal workers and government funding to happen?
It's all fun and games until Social Security checks stop flowing and Medicare/Medicaid grind to a halt.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 13:46 last edited by
They’ll eventually do a CR to March or even July. Eventually Trump will tell them to in order to avoid (even more) chaos during his initial months. The smart thing to do is nothing until DOGE completes their work.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 13:47 last edited by
He has two years. No time like the present to gets started.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 21:29 last edited by
Supposedly there's a deal being made.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 21:32 last edited by
Too lazy to link to a news article ...
Word is Congress has came up with a new funding deal that Trump says he will support.
What's in it? Don't know much, but there is this bit that Trump's Truth Social post calls out: it would suspend the debt ceiling for another two years, to Jan. 30, 2027, after the 2026 midterm elections.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:41 last edited by
It cuts out the crap. Barebones funding deal along with $100B disaster relief. Key Bridge gets rebuilt, RFK Stadium does not. It’s also ~ 150 pages instead of 1500.
Democrats need to realize 2 things. 1) Trump is more popular in most of their districts than they are. 2) If the funding bill passes the House, then they will be the ones responsible for a shutdown.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:44 last edited by
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:45 last edited by
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:46 last edited by
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:47 last edited by
One of the things that people were critical of is that the 1500 page document wasn't really a "continuing resolution," but an "omnibus bill" full of stuff not necessary to keep the government going.
The vote, tonight, will be interesting.
Can Johnson wrangle all the GOP? One or three defections will kill it.
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One of the things that people were critical of is that the 1500 page document wasn't really a "continuing resolution," but an "omnibus bill" full of stuff not necessary to keep the government going.
The vote, tonight, will be interesting.
Can Johnson wrangle all the GOP? One or three defections will kill it.
wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 22:57 last edited by@George-K said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:
One of the things that people were critical of is that the 1500 page document wasn't really a "continuing resolution," but an "omnibus bill" full of stuff not necessary to keep the government going.
The vote, tonight, will be interesting.
Can Johnson wrangle all the GOP? One or three defections will kill it.
Can he pick up a few Democrats? Abigail Spanberger needs show she’s a moderate Democrat if she’s going to win the Governorship of VA, and many of her constituents are CR dependent (for now).
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wrote on 19 Dec 2024, 23:07 last edited by
I like it. It's what it should be. Almost.
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One of the things that people were critical of is that the 1500 page document wasn't really a "continuing resolution," but an "omnibus bill" full of stuff not necessary to keep the government going.
The vote, tonight, will be interesting.
Can Johnson wrangle all the GOP? One or three defections will kill it.
wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 05:44 last edited by@George-K said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:
Can Johnson wrangle all the GOP?
Nope
https://apnews.com/live/government-shutdown-congress-spending-trump-updates
The House of Representatives has rejected President-elect Donald Trump’s new plan to fund federal operations and suspend the debt ceiling a day before a government shutdown.
Almost three dozen Republicans joined Democrats to vote against Trump’s sudden demands and the quick fix cobbled together by GOP leaders. The bill fell 174-235, failing to earn even a majority of votes.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 08:57 last edited by
The Republican Party today is incapable of governing.
Sad.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 11:26 last edited by
I want to remind everyone that it was House Republicans who decided in September to have the CR expire 12/20 rather than a month or two into the new administration.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 12:42 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:
The Republican Party today is incapable of governing.
Sad.
That's what, the fourth identical comment in two days? You're griping, but you withheld your magnificence from the Dems and social media, allowing Trump to win because of your negligence? Simply because you needed to gripe? Identical gripes?
That, sirrah, deserves musica!
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