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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    #257

    “Today, we join virtually every other news organization in declining to agree to the Pentagon’s new requirements, which would restrict journalists’ ability to keep the nation and the world informed of important national security issues. The policy is without precedent and threatens core journalistic protections. We will continue to cover the U.S. military as each of our organizations has done for many decades, upholding the principles of a free and independent press," Fox News said in a statement emailed to Newsweek, which was joined by ABC News, CBS News, CNN and NBC News.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      #258

      I’m old enough to remember when Republicans sued Biden over this.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        #259

        doxing is, as far as I know, disapproved of by both tribes.

        The self righteous antifa sympathizers being the most prominent group who like it.

        Education is extremely important.

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          #260

          If you click through to the source complainer, one Ms Loomer, there doesn’t seem to be much of any doxxing going on. Rather it’s just saying where ICE is conducting raids.

          Makes sense given that, if you’re worried about ICE you just want to avoid them, and also they seem to wear masks and not display name tags. It would be pretty hard to doxx individual agents in practice.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            #261

            I assume ‘ICE tracking sites are getting people killed’ is a lie? I haven’t followed too closely but I’m guessing that had an ICE agent been killed I would have been blamed by Trump and his cabinet along with everyone else who didn’t vote for him. Like what happened with Charlie Kirk (who by the way didn’t turn 32 today).

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              #262

              Yeah took some screenshots. It’s exactly what you’d think it is. People reporting ICE activity in real time.

              IMG_8316.png IMG_8317.png IMG_8318.png

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I'll just assume that there's no actual doxing, for the sake of argument. As far as I'm aware, this conversation during Biden's term, stopped with "private businesses can do whatever they want". There was much prancing around misconceptions of free speech. As it happens, Bondi wants to brag about outreach, where the Biden admin kept it under wraps. I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs.

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                  @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                  I'm not a fan of government leaning on social media sites to moderate content, but I'm sure there's a legal and ethical conversation to be had when these social media groups are being used to organize efforts to harass law enforcement and make it more difficult for them to do their jobs spread misinformation that can result in increased deaths in real human beings.

                  Agreed but I’d still prefer they respect the platform’s independence even if the stakes are material.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    Since when did it become OK for law enforcement to wear masks?

                    I was only joking

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                      Long before the free speech crowd threatened to investigate her for her speech, Nate Silver was giving pundits a hard time for criticizing her so harshly. He wants outlier polls to be published and wants pollsters to have the courage to publish their true results and not sit on them if they’re not in line with everyone else’s. That sort of censorship doesn’t lead to a good result.

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                      said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      You’re all off base completely there’s no fraud there will be no discovery this will get tossed.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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