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Musk goes after homeless programs

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Does he have a point?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/here-s-why-elon-musk-says-homelessness-is-a-misnomer/ss-AA1vYYpS

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      non-profit organizations profit from homelessness rather than work to eliminate it

      Throwing money at the problem isn't fixing it.

      https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/11/us/california-homeless-spending/index.html

      California has spent a stunning $17.5 billion trying to combat homelessness over just four years. But, in the same time frame, from 2018 to 2022, the state’s homeless population actually grew. Half of all Americans living outside on the streets, federal data shows, live in California.

      Across the country, homelessness is on the rise. But California is adding more homeless people every year than any other state. More than 170,000 unhoused people now live here.

      “The problem would be so much worse, absent these interventions,” Jason Elliott, senior adviser on homelessness to Gov. Gavin Newsom, told CNN. “And that’s not what people want to hear. I get it, we get it.”

      But with $17.5 billion, the state could, theoretically, have just paid the rent for every unhoused person in California for those four years, even at the state’s high home costs.

      “That is reductive … Perhaps that would work for me, because I don’t have significant behavioral health challenges.” said Elliott. “If two thirds of people on the streets right now are experiencing mental health symptoms, we can’t just pay their rent.”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #3

        That’s part of it, certainly in California.

        My son and I volunteer about once a month with a charity here called ‘midnight run’, that takes food and clothes around manhattan to distribute directly to homeless people. They know what spots we come to and roughly when.

        We see plenty with alcohol problems, but almost none of the stone eyed drug addicts you see in the encampments (really open air drug markets) in CA.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          I dont agree that the organizations that try to help homeless are actually doing so to increase the number of homeless. I think that is kind of a dumb viewpoint.

          I dont know what the answer is but I think that probably 33% have addiction problems and dont want to be and can't be helped. 33% are actually on hard times and do want and could use assistance. Not sure about the middle 33%.

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            Never doubt someone in the charity biz ain't in it for the business.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Im in the charity business and I’d love to see us cure this disease and perfect screening/detection.

              I’d turn the lights off myself and donate our remaining assets to tissue regeneration efforts.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Jolly’s aphorism would be less elegant if it carved out a special case for people working in a charity to cure a disease they personally carry.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I’ve certainly seen the behavior he describes.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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