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"The Smartest Thing They Ever Did"

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    DeSantis didn’t spend millions to give a few dozen immigrants in Texas a luxury vacation. He did it because he knew Martha’s Vineyard calling itself a sanctuary city (by the common misunderstanding of what that means at least) was virtue signaling and there’s no way these people would find lodging and the means to pay for it.

    Unless you show me the consent form said something like ‘I’m going to use you as a means to an end to embarrass my political opponents. You will be sent somewhere where you ultimately have no future prospects and after a few uncomfortable days in front of the cameras you’ll be resettled elsewhere, don’t ask me specifically where because it won’t be up to me but if I were a betting man I’d say in Boston’ then I ain’t buying it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      DeSantis didn’t spend millions to give a few dozen immigrants in Texas a luxury vacation. He did it because he knew Martha’s Vineyard calling itself a sanctuary city (by the common misunderstanding of what that means at least) was virtue signaling and there’s no way these people would find lodging and the means to pay for it.

      Unless you show me the consent form said something like ‘I’m going to use you as a means to an end to embarrass my political opponents. You will be sent somewhere where you ultimately have no future prospects and after a few uncomfortable days in front of the cameras you’ll be resettled elsewhere, don’t ask me specifically where because it won’t be up to me but if I were a betting man I’d say in Boston’ then I ain’t buying it.

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      @jon-nyc said in "The Smartest Thing They Ever Did":

      DeSantis didn’t spend millions to give a few dozen immigrants in Texas a luxury vacation. He did it because he knew Martha’s Vineyard calling itself a sanctuary city (by the common misunderstanding of what that means at least) was virtue signaling and there’s no way these people would find lodging and the means to pay for it.

      Unless you show me the consent form said something like ‘I’m going to use you as a means to an end to embarrass my political opponents. You will be sent somewhere where you ultimately have no future prospects and after a few uncomfortable days in front of the cameras you’ll be resettled elsewhere, don’t ask me specifically where because it won’t be up to me but if I were a betting man I’d say in Boston’ then I ain’t buying it.

      I ain't buying any moralistic framing that doesn't include details of the way in which these voluntary participants were mistreated, as compared to the treatment they could have expected if they'd said no to the opportunity.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        DeSantis didn’t spend millions to give a few dozen immigrants in Texas a luxury vacation. He did it because he knew Martha’s Vineyard calling itself a sanctuary city (by the common misunderstanding of what that means at least) was virtue signaling and there’s no way these people would find lodging and the means to pay for it.

        Unless you show me the consent form said something like ‘I’m going to use you as a means to an end to embarrass my political opponents. You will be sent somewhere where you ultimately have no future prospects and after a few uncomfortable days in front of the cameras you’ll be resettled elsewhere, don’t ask me specifically where because it won’t be up to me but if I were a betting man I’d say in Boston’ then I ain’t buying it.

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        @jon-nyc said in "The Smartest Thing They Ever Did":

        DeSantis didn’t spend millions to give a few dozen immigrants in Texas a luxury vacation.

        DeSantis moved 50 people from Texas to Martha's Vineyard. He spent "millions?"

        Did he rent a private jet - for each of them?

        Now, if you want to talk about flying migrants around, we can talk about the people being jetted from Ecuador, Nicaragua, etc to places like Whitewater Wisconsin (as an example) where the population went up 15% - overnight.

        We don't even know where they were flown to.

        And yeah, it was taxpayer money.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          I remember the number being $3MM

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I remember the number being $3MM

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            @jon-nyc said in "The Smartest Thing They Ever Did":

            I remember the number being $3MM

            $60,000 per migrant - San Antonio to Martha's Vineyard.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Now I’m seeing $1.6 to the aviation company and another million to lawyers. 52k per immigrant.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                As a Florida guy that actually paid those taxes--

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Now I’m seeing $1.6 to the aviation company and another million to lawyers. 52k per immigrant.

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                  @jon-nyc said in "The Smartest Thing They Ever Did":

                  I’m seeing $1.6 to the aviation company

                  That seems out of line.

                  Screenshot 2024-12-14 at 5.52.59 PM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    It was from a Tallahassee paper that linked to a state database showing payments to vendors. I’ve since closed the link.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      I wonder how much the Biden administration paid to move the quarter of a million "migrants" out of South America and drop them off in upstate New York in the middle of the night.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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