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Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
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    I went to a coffee shop this morning with a real live french barista behind the counter. Best espresso I've had so far. Then I went to a coffee shop owned by some sort of latino immigrant family, and the mom, after trying to figure out the register to charge me, made my espresso in a paper to-go cup, even though I told her I wanted it for here. I reminded her, and pointed to the porcelain cups on top of the espresso machine, and she apologized, and poured the paper cup of espresso into a porcelain one. It was awful compared to the one from the French guy.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      Racist.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Racist.

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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

        Racist.

        The French guy was black. Boom.

        Not really, but he could have been.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • markM Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

          While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

          Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

          I went from a Flair Pro then to the 58+ model full manual espresso machine to a semi-auto. My semi auto cost about the same as the Flair 58+ so it is not a high-end machine. I intend to get a better machine someday soon.

          The Flair Pro3.
          https://flairespresso.com/products/espresso-makers/flair-pro-3/

          The Flair 58
          https://flairespresso.com/flair-58-first-look/

          My current semi-auto.
          https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-legato-espresso-machine

          An E61 that I might get in the near future.
          https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-gallatin-hx-espresso-machine-with-pid

          A modern semi-auto with digital pressure profiling, w/Blutooth
          https://espressooutlet.com/collections/wendougee-espresso/products/wendougee-data-s-espresso-machine

          Enjoy that Jura! They make excellent coffee.

          jon-nycJ HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply
          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            I have two cups from the Keurig every day.

            I have never had espresso.

            I probably never will, but I guess I might sometime.

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            • markM mark

              Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

              While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

              Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

              I went from a Flair Pro then to the 58+ model full manual espresso machine to a semi-auto. My semi auto cost about the same as the Flair 58+ so it is not a high-end machine. I intend to get a better machine someday soon.

              The Flair Pro3.
              https://flairespresso.com/products/espresso-makers/flair-pro-3/

              The Flair 58
              https://flairespresso.com/flair-58-first-look/

              My current semi-auto.
              https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-legato-espresso-machine

              An E61 that I might get in the near future.
              https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-gallatin-hx-espresso-machine-with-pid

              A modern semi-auto with digital pressure profiling, w/Blutooth
              https://espressooutlet.com/collections/wendougee-espresso/products/wendougee-data-s-espresso-machine

              Enjoy that Jura! They make excellent coffee.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

              Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

              While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

              Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

              This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
              HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                Education is extremely important.

                jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • markM mark

                  Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                  While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                  Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                  I went from a Flair Pro then to the 58+ model full manual espresso machine to a semi-auto. My semi auto cost about the same as the Flair 58+ so it is not a high-end machine. I intend to get a better machine someday soon.

                  The Flair Pro3.
                  https://flairespresso.com/products/espresso-makers/flair-pro-3/

                  The Flair 58
                  https://flairespresso.com/flair-58-first-look/

                  My current semi-auto.
                  https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-legato-espresso-machine

                  An E61 that I might get in the near future.
                  https://espressooutlet.com/collections/turin-espresso-machines/products/turin-gallatin-hx-espresso-machine-with-pid

                  A modern semi-auto with digital pressure profiling, w/Blutooth
                  https://espressooutlet.com/collections/wendougee-espresso/products/wendougee-data-s-espresso-machine

                  Enjoy that Jura! They make excellent coffee.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @mark, what beans do you use? In the fully auto machines, I'm not supposed to use anything too dark and oily, so I'm going to start with a medium roast from a local roaster.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                    @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                    Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                    While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                    Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                    This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                    I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #11

                    @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                    @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                    @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                    Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                    While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                    Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                    This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                    I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                    I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a challenge to yourself personally, you might come to that conclusion. But most people on TNCR would see my comment as a joke playing off the well-known fact that Mark has had many hobbies over time and dives into them completely and achieves deep knowledge of the subject.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                      While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                      Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                      This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                      I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                      I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a challenge to yourself personally, you might come to that conclusion. But most people on TNCR would see my comment as a joke playing off the well-known fact that Mark has had many hobbies over time and dives into them completely and achieves deep knowledge of the subject.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                      Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                      While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                      Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                      This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                      I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                      I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a challenge to yourself personally, you might come to that conclusion. But most people on TNCR would see my comment as a joke playing off the well-known fact that Mark had many hobbies over time and dives into them completely and achieves deep knowledge of the subject.

                      Sure jon. Your checkmate didn't relate to some game where someone wins. And you definitely don't have a compulsion to treat everything as a competition. You're like the opposite of that guy. Consider me gaslit.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #13

                        I would have made the same joke if he had been responding to my post.

                        We have different levels of self-confidence I guess.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          I would have made the same joke if he had been responding to my post.

                          We have different levels of self-confidence I guess.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                          I would have made the same joke if he had been responding to my post.

                          We have different levels of self-confidence I guess.

                          You are definitely not compelled to treat everything as a competition. I already told you I was gaslit, no need to pile on.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Mik
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                            I have a good quality manual Breville. Makes a great shot.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                                While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                                Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                                This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                                I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                                I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a challenge to yourself personally, you might come to that conclusion. But most people on TNCR would see my comment as a joke playing off the well-known fact that Mark had many hobbies over time and dives into them completely and achieves deep knowledge of the subject.

                                Sure jon. Your checkmate didn't relate to some game where someone wins. And you definitely don't have a compulsion to treat everything as a competition. You're like the opposite of that guy. Consider me gaslit.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @Horace said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                @mark said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                Jura are "Bean To Cup, Automatic Coffee Machines"

                                While they are probably the best in the "Bean to Cup Full-Auto" camp, they are not a traditional E61 group-head (or even different sized group head) semi-auto or full manual espresso machine.

                                Full auto machines do not have the fine level of control of the traditional machines.

                                This belongs in the ‘Great Move’ thread with the heading ‘Mate in one’.

                                I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a competition, and hadn't noticed I'd said in my first post that this machine does not produce espresso at the level of a manual machine, you could consider Mark's post a checkmate of sorts. But most people who buy one of these things understands that they are buying the convenience, and trading some espresso quality.

                                I guess if you had a compulsion to see everything as a challenge to yourself personally, you might come to that conclusion. But most people on TNCR would see my comment as a joke playing off the well-known fact that Mark had many hobbies over time and dives into them completely and achieves deep knowledge of the subject.

                                Sure jon. Your checkmate didn't relate to some game where someone wins. And you definitely don't have a compulsion to treat everything as a competition. You're like the opposite of that guy. Consider me gaslit.

                                You two need to back off on the coffee.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Incidentally, I simply cannot believe that people spend three FUCKING grand on a coffee machine in order to drink a rather unsophisticated alternative to tea.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Mik
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                                    Use that inflation raise you got and git you one.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Use that inflation raise you got and git you one.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #20

                                      @Mik said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                      Use that inflation raise you got and git you one.

                                      I'm afraid that money was allocated fairly rapidly to a different kind of beverage, possibly helping the French and Scottish economies.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        Incidentally, I simply cannot believe that people spend three FUCKING grand on a coffee machine in order to drink a rather unsophisticated alternative to tea.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Anybody have an automatic espresso machine?:

                                        Incidentally, I simply cannot believe that people spend three FUCKING grand on a coffee machine in order to drink a rather unsophisticated alternative to tea.

                                        We got it through a friend who has a big discount on retail.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Delivery is scheduled for today! I am excited.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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