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What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

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  • KlausK Online
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    Klaus
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    It doesn't matter whether it matters. And that's why it matters.

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    • L Offline
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      Loki
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      In the absence of real evidence this is total bs. Let’s see it because the truth of it is that none of us know if it is true. All we have is what we want to believe. Have fun with an evidence free allegation.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Even FoxNews confirmed the reporting.

        Kelly had ‘no comment’.

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        @jon-nyc said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

        Even FoxNews confirmed the reporting.

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        • MikM Away
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          Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

            If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

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            @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

            It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

            If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

            Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

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            • MikM Mik

              Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

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              @Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

              Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

              No, sometimes it's a former administration figure who then gets tarred and feathered by Trump supporters for being disloyal disgruntled.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Mik

                Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

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                @Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

                Not necessarily. Sometimes there are recordings, like Romney’s “47 percent” recording and Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” recording. Then you also have formal Congressional testimonies (e.g., Vindman) and paper trail (e.g., the Stormy Daniel affair). Even more frequently you have Trump himself publicly incriminating himself via tweets or through broadcast TV (e.g., Trump publicly telling some voters to vote twice in the same election).

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                  It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

                  If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

                  Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

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                  @Axtremus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                  @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                  It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

                  If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

                  Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

                  Haha. Like any Trump allegation survives the scrutiny of a week. So glad you brought this up. Most your duds here don’t even survive 48 hours.

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                  • taiwan_girlT Online
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                    If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID NOT say it, half the people will still say - " Doesn't matter. He meant to say it."
                    And the other half saying - "See, I told you so!"

                    If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID say it, half the people will still say - "Doesn't matter. He didn't really mean it."
                    And the other half saying, "See, I told you so!"

                    LOL

                    (My personal opinion is that he probably did not say it. Seems like a strange thing to say. President Trump says a lot of goofy things, but I dont think this is one of them.)

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                      If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

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                        @Horace LOL

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          @Horace said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                          If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

                          But before the cup can be half full, it must be a quarter full. But that can't happen until it is first 1/8 full, which can't happen until it is 1/16th full. Eventually you realize you need to make an infinite number of cup fillings in a finite amount of time, which is impossible, ergo Trump hates veterans.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            It's a crock. A lot of the silliness in the MSM, is to cover Joe's softball press conference.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              All this just confirms what I said. Whether it happened or not is irrelevant. What’s painful is that it’s obvious that it’s conceivable.

                              It’s inconceivable that Biden would make such a statement.

                              It’s also inconceivable that Obama would make such a statement.

                              Hey it’s even true that Pence would never say it.

                              But Donald, yea, he really could have.

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                                Self-fulfilling prophecy.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  I don't always hate Trump for being so hateable. But when I do, I hate him for making me hate him because he's so hateable.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    It never ceases to amaze me at how gullible people are. An "anonymous source" tells a leftwing news rag something negative about Trump, they run it in the news, everyone who was in the room when the alleged incident allegedly took place says it didnt happen, and you hear shit like "well, even if it didn't happen it COULD have happrned." Give me a fucking break. Where have we heard this before.... golly gee, this is the first time something like this has ever happened, the Left/democrats would NEVER lie, they're so morally superior!!

                                    You can expect a minimum of one "gotcha" story per week until November. The Left, and the democrat party, have no shame, no principles, and are vile, evil pieces of shit who think the public is stupid.

                                    Stop proving them correct by buying into bull shit every time they roll out another pile of it.

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                                      Whether it is true, it doesn't matter to the TDS people, it is fun.

                                      And the Trump people just know it is false.

                                      It doesn't matter either way.

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Again, look at his actions. Does he seem like a president who doesn't respect our veterans? I can't see it. I don't think it is conceivable that he said, it, which is the essence of this thread.

                                        Look, the guy's an ass in many ways. But not this one.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          I could see holding that view if the diss on POWs hadn’t been caught on film but it was. And these are roughly the same sentiment.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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